Manchester Utd vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[andyh]

Add in the waste of money on Elliott.

[Paul.S]

Onana has been a massive let down, just when we needed him. Bailey and Buendia just aren’t at the level we want to be but it’s all we have.

[Proposition Joe]

Can anybody see any positives from that performance?

Mings and Barkley were ok I thought. Was fuming they started but did well.

We were comfortable until we contrived to let that Funko Pop score from a corner. Then we equalised and were on top, but Konsa inexplicably lost Cunha for their second (irrespective of Bailey giving the ball away, the two CBs had it covered; i think they got distracted by Mbeumo who was offside), and their third we gave them on a plate - that was our ball and should have been cleared.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

When things aren't going for you, you have to dig-deep and fight fire with fire. We played with the handbrake on in the first half which is more about structure than confidence. But I really wish we would show more intent in the first half of games, being reactive in this league will only get you so far. That's on Emery. We don't have the class of Tielemans and Kamara so expecting inferior players to thrive in a structure that is heavily dependent on those two players is seriously flawed.

Amen.

It's Eamonn but thanks

Too bad a mood to play that card.

[Martyn Smith]

It was a telling statistic that this was our oldest starting XI since McLeish. But where will we get the funds to bring in younger talent?...

[Goldie.7]

This team is weak and soft over a full campaign—just look at Bailey for their second goal. These players don’t give a fuck.

Brentford are now the team we need to watch out for because there’s zero chance we’re finishing in the top five.

[tomd2103]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Both Villa and Man United needed to buy about three attackers this summer. They went and spent, what, 200m+? We were left scraping the barrel. One club is in chronic debt, the other isn't. One has 50p negative net spend over the last five years. The other doesn't.

Alrighty then.

So we spent what little we had on Guessand £30m, Elliot and not play him  and give Sancho the best part of £180k a week, its not all down to FFP, a lot is down to absolute crap transfer dealings which we then compound by getting shot of Malen and paying £18m for a player we could've got for £11m.... maybe we might be better off if we didnt piss money away on players who arent good enough

Exactly this. We can moan all we like about the financial restrictions but no one forced us to buy a turd in Guessand and give an oxygen thief like Sancho that sort of wage.

True, but the restrictions meant we were shopping in that market when we really needed to be buying a much better calibre of player. 

I genuinely can't believe how bad some of those players have been over the past few weeks.  Some of them have got bad attitudes as well to boot. 

[astonvilla82]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Both Villa and Man United needed to buy about three attackers this summer. They went and spent, what, 200m+? We were left scraping the barrel. One club is in chronic debt, the other isn't. One has 50p negative net spend over the last five years. The other doesn't.

Alrighty then.

And that sums up our place in the food chain

[saint13]

We looked the we are, a team on the decline through injuries, lack of confidence and of most of all lack of progression. Appalling recruitment, dragging rejected players back and no room for manoeuvre financially.

Emery will leave and we will revert to PL cannon fodder.

Sadly I agree, that is the likely outcome. It is Champions League or bust for the manager.

If somehow we can scramble a win against West Ham and get Youri back after the break, we might still have  a have a chance of 5th, (largely due to Chelsea's ineptitude) or to win the Europa League.

However, things have to change. Big players have to step up and show a bit of character and a lot more confidence and quailty. Everyone needs to improve and I include the manager in that.

[PaulWinch again]

Big surprise that. Wrong team, bad display - again.

[brontebilly]

We seem a team in decline sadly. Emery is in a real funk too. Man United there for taking today and we didn't have the courage to have a go until 1-0 down.

Martinez 5 - poor for first I thought, if he's getting a touch to it it should be going over
Bogarde 6 - caught horribly by cross field ball for their goal but should have been bailed out, ok for backup right back
Konsa 3 - soft as shite for two goals
Mings 7 - surprise return but did well defensively. Not much to defend against, mind
Digne 3 - completely finished at this level
Barkley 7 - no pace in game so did well on ball and finished well for goal
Onana 6 - did well for a 15 min spell after we went behind but poor for two goals
Rogers 3 - awful yet again, touch and head gone
Buendia 5 - tried hard with little coming off
McGinn 5 - bit off pace as expected and hooked early
Watkins 2 - tragic

Bailey was awful as per usual, Tammy very poor, missed two glorious chances but hold up play was shite. The other three weren't given enough time but two of them conspired to cost us a consolation at end.

Emery - shit scared team selection and leaving likes of Luiz and Maatsen on bench until 82nd minute was insane

[dorsetvillian]

Harsh..

[Clampy]

A predictable and disapointing scoreline but I didnt think we were as bad as some are making out.

[AV82EC]

Bloody hell brontebilly I’d say theres some generous scores on there.

[Nev]

A predictable and disapointing scoreline but I didnt think we were as bad as some are making out.

We weren't but we looked like a team that didn't hadn't had the investment our opponents had. Very simple stuff.