Aston Villa 1-1 Leeds Post match grumble

[Demitri_C]

Did we play well vs Brighton? Or were we fortunate?

All four home performances  were poor. We got out of jail vs brighton lets not sugar coat it.

We were not fortunate v Brighton as we scored one more than them in normal time. That's how football is played and games won.
I suggest you adjust your parameters, its a long season and it's League football played over 9 months. As I said we have lost 3 of the best midfielders in England, possibly Europe with injuries and that was bound to take it's toll.

Yet imagine we had the injuries spurs have had? We cant keep using 3 injuries as a excuse for these poor performances.  We went newcastle  and played well without those three players and won. So why have we become shit at home lately.

Disagree.Just because  you win a  game at home doesnt mean you were not fortunate  to win that game. We were average in that game and struggled to  create anything like today for large parts of the game. It wasnt a deserved victory  at all (not that im complaining ill take those all day) but the point is you cant get away playing this poorly and expect to get results

To answer  your question my expectations  at start of season were midtable so naturally  happy of course we sit 3rd. But we have put us in a fantastic  position  to get 3rd why blow it without showing any passion on fight? There has been very little of that in the last 5 games at home

[BoVillan esq]

We got the point, Chelsea lost 2, its not so bad, I actually thought we was bang on to lose that.

We are still third and clinging on and that's all we need to keep doing.

[MalcolmP]

Lost to Everton and Brentford and drew with Leeds but beat Man City and Arsenal and Man Utd. Had,we beaten the 1st 3 and lost to the latter 3 would everybody be moaning?  Its better to beat the teams around us and 9 pts from the latter have put us in a better position than 9 pts from the former. Things need to be put in perspective and look at the overall position we are in and not just pick on the fact that we should beat Everton and Brentford. If City and Arsenal fans spoke like that, that they should beat teams like the Villa then we would call them arrogant *unts. We have no divine right to beat anyone, we have to earn it.  Everybody needs to calm down, get behind the team and get back the atmosphere that made Villa Park a fortress, the atmosphere has been as dull as dishwater last few home games and I'm sure the opposition gets lifted by that. Rant over.

[Ads]

I'm of the view that we should be beating bottom six, newly promoted drek like Leeds at home. We cant give them a 45 minute head start, we're not that good and the league isn't that dull that we need to invent challenges. Its not controversial and its a totally false dichotomy to conflate an imaginary Man City fan doing anything but fear coming to Villa Park with Villa fans wanting and thinking we should roll shite like Leeds.

Pick the right side today and we would have.

[olaftab]

Yet imagine we had the injuries spurs have had? We cant keep using 3 injuries as a excuse for these poor performances.  We went newcastle  and played well without those three players and won. So why have we become shit at home lately.

Disagree.Just because  you win a  game at home doesnt mean you were not fortunate  to win that game. We were average in that game and struggled to  create anything like today for large parts of the game. It wasnt a deserved victory  at all (not that im complaining ill take those all day) but the point is you cant get away playing this poorly and expect to get results

To answer  your question my expectations  at start of season were midtable so naturally  happy of course we sit 3rd. But we have put us in a fantastic  position  to get 3rd why blow it without showing any passion on fight? There has been very little of that in the last 5 games at home

As I said having lost top quality players we can not dictate play at home to force wins. With current set up we are better away team. I don't think we are playing poorly as we are not comparing like for like. We were spoilt in that run of 11 games. When Kamara, Tielemans and McGinn are in we are Rolls Royce of a team but currently just a BMW X5, doing an adequate job. 

[pauliewalnuts]

Lost to Everton and Brentford and drew with Leeds but beat Man City and Arsenal and Man Utd. Had,we beaten the 1st 3 and lost to the latter 3 would everybody be moaning? 

Yes, but that narrative ignores time - these shit results have all come recently, that's why people are more concerned. Bad performances happen, you can't win them all, but we seem to be on a run of them, performances recently have been piss poor on the whole. We are lucky, other results have largely gone well for us, though.

We are missing almost our entire first choice midfield, which is a big contributing factor, but I am not sure it is enough to explain the shiteness against absolute dross like Leeds.

[pauliewalnuts]

We went newcastle  and played well without those three players and won.

Tielemans played 75 minutes at Newcastle.

[john e]

just play your best players

Sancho might not be worth his money but he’s way better than Bailey, Bailey is just a pathway where the ball goes to die along with our hopes and dreams
Scapegoat or not he’s no where near good enough

Pau is the best passer of the ball we have out of all the defensive players so instead of pissing our pants worrying about the threat of Dominic fucking Calvert fucking Lewin let’s move the ball quicker and sharper in a forward direction and stop pissing about and have a bit more courage cus at the moment we’re like that fucking Lion in the Wizard of Oz to much shitting the bed over fuck all DCL is no threat if the ball is in there half

Watkins has been mostly shit all season Malen was far better if Malen had got the minutes Watkins has had this season we’d have more points on the board imo
but unfortunately we sold our best striker maybe there were financial reasons I dont know but Tammy looks a greater threat at the moment

I’ve been pleasantly surprised with Barkley he’s always been technically gifted but he definitely adds to the team at the moment when he comes on, I’d start him and try and get the upper hand earlier on in games

[PaulWinch again]

I'm of the view that we should be beating bottom six, newly promoted drek like Leeds at home. We cant give them a 45 minute head start, we're not that good and the league isn't that dull that we need to invent challenges. Its not controversial and its a totally false dichotomy to conflate an imaginary Man City fan doing anything but fear coming to Villa Park with Villa fans wanting and thinking we should roll shite like Leeds.

Pick the right side today and we would have.

Agree. The selection of Mings over Torres, unless there’s an injury, is a major issue.

[olaftab]

Yes agreed. When Mings replaces Torres our creative quality nose dives.

[Sexual Ealing]

just play your best players

Sancho might not be worth his money but he’s way better than Bailey, Bailey is just a pathway where the ball goes to die along with our hopes and dreams
Scapegoat or not he’s no where near good enough

Pau is the best passer of the ball we have out of all the defensive players so instead of pissing our pants worrying about the threat of Dominic fucking Calvert fucking Lewin let’s move the ball quicker and sharper in a forward direction and stop pissing about and have a bit more courage cus at the moment we’re like that fucking Lion in the Wizard of Oz to much shitting the bed over fuck all DCL is no threat if the ball is in there half

Watkins has been mostly shit all season Malen was far better if Malen had got the minutes Watkins has had this season we’d have more points on the board imo
but unfortunately we sold our best striker maybe there were financial reasons I dont know but Tammy looks a greater threat at the moment

I’ve been pleasantly surprised with Barkley he’s always been technically gifted but he definitely adds to the team at the moment when he comes on, I’d start him and try and get the upper hand earlier on in games

I agree with john e.

[Hampshire Villa]

I know we were poor today but I keep thinking about where we were before Unai came here. We are;I’m sure going to have periods like the one we find ourselves now. It still is a mile away from where we were with SG.
Things will gel. There’s still a way to go.
I think Bailey has had his chances and he is not good enough. Tammy has to start as does Sancho on current form. Buendia looks a little lightweight and often gives the ball away. Maybe give Ross a chance starting.
Up the Villa

[astonvilla82]

Whatever injuries we have or what team Emery picks for games we all expect players to put in a shift, something I think we are lacking in a few games especially recently

[paul_e]

The problem with starting Barkley is it means we have to push Rogers out to the left to accommodate him and Rogers is the one of them that is still playing pretty well right now but it just being crowded out because the rest of the attack are so easy to cover.

Buendia is back to the player he was for most of his career with us, capable of flashes of quality but far too often gives the ball away really easily when he has time and options to do something.

Bailey was terrible today, he knew it as well and looked relieved when he got to go off early. He was ok for a few games when he came back so there's definitely more there but today literally nothing was working for him and he just shrank. Watkins wasn't great either but, in my opinion, he improved massively when Sancho and Barkley came on and we had some dynamism to our play that hadn't been there.

[taylorsworkrate]

4 games at home against Everton, Brentford, Brighton and Leeds have seen a total of 2 goals. I know we have injuries but even with the players out that is so so poor.