Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread

[tomd2103]

A really brainless last minute corner, a shower of shite, everyone forward, Bailey makes a terrible choice, executes it appallingly, Bizot loses his marbles and we go from being very comfortable to looking like we were just waiting to concede.

We really do have a squad strong enough to expect better than what we showed in that second half.

I found the tactics a bit strange after we went down to 10.  Rather than just go to a flat four in midfield and leave Abraham up front, we went to two inverted wide players.  Thar just meant their full-backs were free pretty much all of the time and we couldn't get out. 

[OzVilla]

While I’d have preferred to have gone through I also think we’ve increased our chances of achieving CL football by no longer being in this competition. It’s a weird feeling.

[john2710]

Newcastle offered nothing before the sending off & for all the possession in the second, they didn't create a lot. Two goals from outside the box & a gift at the end.

If Bizot keeps his head, even if they equalise, we go on to win that game 11 vs 11. I'll never understand why goalkeepers bring down a player in that situation, unless there's only a few minutes left.

As for the standard of refereeing, Premier League officials can't referee anymore without VAR. We'll get fuck all decisions now for the rest of the season.

[oldhill_avfc]

I'd love to know the thinking behind what led to the red card. When Bailey slips as he tries to do his job and keep an attack going he's actually our outfield player that's furthest back. What the fuck is every other player doing so far forward? Why is every outfield player in the final third?

We always set up like that for corners.  We have one of the quicker players (Maatsen last few games) in the centre of the pitch to mop up a clearance and stop the counter.

Maatsen almost invariably recycles the back to the keeper and stops the kind of fuck up that ensued yesterday.

[AV82EC]

Not going to talk about the performance really, it was bad, it's so annoying how much worse we are down to ten men than teams seem to be against us, what can you do.

I just hate losing that fucking club. I just hate that fucking club. And I absolutely hate their ageing cheerleaders in the press, who live in a forever 1997 where Philippe Albert is forever dinking in from 25 and we'd always luv it if everyone's second team could give the Best Fans In The World the success we all want for them, nevermind that they're the propaganda doll of a rape-and-plunder state, literally the most evil people on earth, nevermind that they're also a dirty bunch of absolute thugs, not just rotational fouling but genuinely violent, nasty, their manager a total soulless goon.

So I'm sorry if Lucas did a bad tackle. Did anyone mention that one of their talentless cloggers took out our best player for months with a cynical-as-you-like rake down the achilles? Anyone mention of their owner's bonesaw hobby? No of course not, we have to be subjected to endless simpering over their sentimental, wailing, gormless fanbase (hey they've taken their shirts off! wow they're so morally pathetic! just so zany!) and their utterly imagined grievances.

So I can take losing. I can even take losing to this bunch. But I really could be spared the moral fucking grandstanding from ISIS AFC, nevermind the moral grandstanding being done on their behalf by dewy-eyed losers and sycophants. Piss off.

Post of the Year. Bravo…

[PeterWithe]

If Bizot keeps his head, even if they equalise, we go on to win that game 11 vs 11. I'll never understand why goalkeepers bring down a player in that situation, unless there's only a few minutes left.

The only thing I can think of is that while the ball was in the air Bizot had an opportunity, if the first touch wasn't perfect to snap in and clear the ball. But it was perfect. And he made a bad choice.

I was chatting to a bloke on the walk back who didn't think it was a red card. Fuck me, I don't think I've seen a clearer one. But as the ref got everything else wrong I suppose he could have let that one go as well.

[eamonn]

There is some talk that it may not necessarily have been a clear goalscoring opportunity. He was going away from goal and we had one player chasing back. But it was only ever likely to be red.

[LeeB]

If Bizot keeps his head, even if they equalise, we go on to win that game 11 vs 11. I'll never understand why goalkeepers bring down a player in that situation, unless there's only a few minutes left.

The only thing I can think of is that while the ball was in the air Bizot had an opportunity, if the first touch wasn't perfect to snap in and clear the ball. But it was perfect. And he made a bad choice.

I was chatting to a bloke on the walk back who didn't think it was a red card. Fuck me, I don't think I've seen a clearer one. But as the ref got everything else wrong I suppose he could have let that one go as well.

Any question if "Was there a player covering?" was irrelevant given he'd charged out 40 yards and took him out at his knees. It was the reddest of reds.

[brontebilly]

Digne's tackle on the same player? should have been red too. I know we aren't happy about the tackles that injured likes of Kamara and Tielemans but those two yesterday by Bizot and Digne were an entirely different level.

[eye digress]

Other silver lining: keeps Howe in place and therefore the Jaudis out of serious league competition with us for another 12-18 months at least.

[Monty]

How can it be a different level from injuring someone for months?

[Rigadon]

Not going to talk about the performance really, it was bad, it's so annoying how much worse we are down to ten men than teams seem to be against us, what can you do.

I just hate losing that fucking club. I just hate that fucking club. And I absolutely hate their ageing cheerleaders in the press, who live in a forever 1997 where Philippe Albert is forever dinking in from 25 and we'd always luv it if everyone's second team could give the Best Fans In The World the success we all want for them, nevermind that they're the propaganda doll of a rape-and-plunder state, literally the most evil people on earth, nevermind that they're also a dirty bunch of absolute thugs, not just rotational fouling but genuinely violent, nasty, their manager a total soulless goon.

So I'm sorry if Lucas did a bad tackle. Did anyone mention that one of their talentless cloggers took out our best player for months with a cynical-as-you-like rake down the achilles? Anyone mention of their owner's bonesaw hobby? No of course not, we have to be subjected to endless simpering over their sentimental, wailing, gormless fanbase (hey they've taken their shirts off! wow they're so morally pathetic! just so zany!) and their utterly imagined grievances.

So I can take losing. I can even take losing to this bunch. But I really could be spared the moral fucking grandstanding from ISIS AFC, nevermind the moral grandstanding being done on their behalf by dewy-eyed losers and sycophants. Piss off.

Post of the Year. Bravo…

Yes, an outstanding rant. 

[eamonn]

Agreed. Apart from the bit about Miley, a talentless clogged he ain't.

[martin o`who??]

Still fuming. I honestly can't ever remember so many major decisions going our way in one game in the 55 years I've been been a VP regular. To be honest it would have been an absolute travesty if we'd won. All those favourable decisions and we still lose 1:3. I hate VAR with a passion but yesterday put the case against it in the shitter.

[Monty]

Agreed. Apart from the bit about Miley, a talentless clogged he ain't.

But I hate him.