Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread

[olaftab]

Brilliant. We gave up Kamara and a title challenge for that cup ‘run.’

Cheap comment.

Yes. Someone else would say just fuck off but obviously not me.

[KevinGage]

Given the manager's professionalism, our gormlessness beggars belief sometimes.

1-0 up in the last minute of the 1st half and we effectively lose the game within 30 seconds flat with 1. a ludicrous attempted Hollywood ball from Bailey 2. literally no-one at the back from their resultant pass and 3. Bizot's Hong Kong Phooey impression.

It's Keystone Kops stuff sometimes, absolutely witless.

Aye, for a team as supposedly well drilled as we are that was an awful lot of unforced errors to cram into 90 mins.

Maybe they've switched from detailed video analysis at Bodymoor Heath to watching Netflix instead.

[walsall villain]

Since the Spurs game we have lost key players so I’m not fussed that we lost today. Focus on the other two and hope to get the players fit again (except Kamara sadly). Thought we played ok in the first half but we had many decisions go our way so we can’t complain. The Bizot moment was the key action. As others have said, we can’t play well against 10 men and we can’t play well when down to 10 men. It’s Unai’s rare weakness.

[Crown Hill]

Can’t play without a midfield. Dougie and Onana have shown they are hopeless and this cant go on. It puts the defence under pressure and gives us no control in home matches.

I would definitely take anything we can for Onana in the summer!

Onana was ok tonight and I'm not his biggest fan. Dougie was very good in first half. Emery sold the midfield out when we went down to 10, not a night for criticising them.

Can’t agree. They were both so poor even when we had eleven. Dougie may get better. At the moment the game just bypasses him. Onana is just poor and ineffective. In the games they’ve played we’ve just surrendered the middle of the pitch. Our attacks are basically breaks and our defence is under constant pressure.

I’m hopeful Unai will tackle this. He has to. This set up just doesn’t work. You can’t vacate the midfield.

[rougegorge]

Losing today means that we will have two free weekends in March/April. So that might help.

We play West Ham at home on March 22nd and then don't play again in the league until Forest away on April 11th or 12th.

We would play in the Europa League QF 1st leg on April 9th if we get through the Round of 16.

[RamboandBruno]

Can’t play without a midfield. Dougie and Onana have shown they are hopeless and this cant go on. It puts the defence under pressure and gives us no control in home matches.

I would definitely take anything we can for Onana in the summer!

Onana was ok tonight and I'm not his biggest fan. Dougie was very good in first half. Emery sold the midfield out when we went down to 10, not a night for criticising them.

Can’t agree. They were both so poor even when we had eleven. Dougie may get better. At the moment the game just bypasses him. Onana is just poor and ineffective. In the games they’ve played we’ve just surrendered the middle of the pitch. Our attacks are basically breaks and our defence is under constant pressure.

I’m hopeful Unai will tackle this. He has to. This best up just doesn’t work. You can’t vacate the midfield.

Dougie has come in after hardly playing for two years, he’s done ok, nothing more, but Im really not sure what you are expecting from him just now..
We were comfortably in control until Bizot lost his head. Shit pass from Bailey, but Bizot stays on his line, Murphy has a lot to do.

[brontebilly]

Can’t play without a midfield. Dougie and Onana have shown they are hopeless and this cant go on. It puts the defence under pressure and gives us no control in home matches.

I would definitely take anything we can for Onana in the summer!

Onana was ok tonight and I'm not his biggest fan. Dougie was very good in first half. Emery sold the midfield out when we went down to 10, not a night for criticising them.

Can’t agree. They were both so poor even when we had eleven. Dougie may get better. At the moment the game just bypasses him. Onana is just poor and ineffective. In the games they’ve played we’ve just surrendered the middle of the pitch. Our attacks are basically breaks and our defence is under constant pressure.

I’m hopeful Unai will tackle this. He has to. This set up just doesn’t work. You can’t vacate the midfield.

Yet when it was 11 v 11, they completely outplayed the Newcastle duo. They were poor v Brighton alright, Onana especially so.

[andyh]

It’s not very often I come away from the ground not overly upset by a defeat, today is an exception.
Had it been 11 against 11 I think we would have won.

But it wasn’t.
Bizot cost us the game through a moment of madness. Big Emi’s influence obviously runs deep.

Our second half performance was poor. We could not cope with the high press and energy of 11 v 10.
A couple of mentions though.
1. Lindelof - absolutely superb. Imperious in the first half, and excellent in the second.
2. Rogers - first half performance was as good as you will see.
3. Onana was very, very good.
4. Buendia can fuck right off. An absolute abortion of a performance in the time he was on the pitch.
5. Digne - what has happened there ?


Oh well. It’s approaching 70 years since we won the thing. What’s another year ?

[PeterWithesShin]

I'd love to know the thinking behind what led to the red card. When Bailey slips as he tries to do his job and keep an attack going he's actually our outfield player that's furthest back. What the fuck is every other player doing so far forward? Why is every outfield player in the final third?

[andyh]

I thought Bailey was ok and he is one of the few players we have with pace - which we needed.

Bailey can be ok until the final pass/shot/cross. It’s all ‘ok’ until the second it actually matters.
He is the absolute definition of ‘all fart and no shit’.

[kippaxvilla2]

Anyone who’s saying it’s okay we could do without being in this can just fuck right off.  I want to win this cup more than anything.  And yes that includes champions league.

[dorsetvillian]

Just home. Never like a defeat but I was happy with the first half and thought we controlled the game and made some very good chances. Can't remember a Bizot save.  The Bailey pass combined with Bizot  doing a Martinez killed us. Frustrating second half. I really didn't want to go out of the cup but it will give periods of much needed rest as we move into the business end of the season on two fronts.

[eamonn]

Burn looked offside and fouled Onana for Tonali's equaliser which would have gone straight to Martínez were it not for the deflection off Luiz. Evens up Tammy's goal.

Bizot's sending-off was just a needless gift .Our corner in half time injury time when we're winning, shouldn't lead to such a wide-open counter-attack but watching from the Upper Holte, I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw how advanced Bizot was. Fucking brainless.

Our one spell of pressure in the second half from the 80th to the 85th minute was primarily the work of Sancho, fair play to him. We were reliant on the ball falling for us in the box from one of those corners. Don't think Newcastle deserved their third, but our playing out from the back regardless of how the game is going, bit us in the backside.

It did strike me that the slow build-up from the back in the first half was far more painful to watch when you don't have Tielemans to ping perfect passes, Kamara to take it, turn beautifully on the ball or McGinn's brute arse-force and dynamism. Then again, it was nice to have a break from Ezri and Ty's square balls to each other. Obviously Unai is incredible but when he does go, the consistent press-baiting tactic is something I would welcome being shaken up with an injection of pace from our defensive restarts.

Ended my unbeaten run of home Villa games in the flesh, only get to go a few times a season but Dec-19, 1-3 against Southampton was the last defeat I saw at Villa Park.

[Toronto Villa]

I'd love to know the thinking behind what led to the red card. When Bailey slips as he tries to do his job and keep an attack going he's actually our outfield player that's furthest back. What the fuck is every other player doing so far forward? Why is every outfield player in the final third?

And especially right on the stroke of HT with a 1-0 lead. No need tactically to commit that many defenders forward.

[dorsetvillian]

This result along with the one at Spurs keeps Eddie Howe in a job which is a good thing as they are very ordinary. I just can't see them really progressing with him as manager. 11 v 11 and I'm convinced we win that game.