Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread

[SaddVillan]

I'm gutted tonight...it was there on a plate for us with the lead... Bizots totally ferked that from every sense.. I'm totally with Brontë.. couldn't for the life of me understand the structure and balance we come out with in the second half...we rarely play 2 up front and it left us struggling to support the full backs, and they're a team that loves to get wide and put pressure there... getting off train at new st.. better cheer up as off to meet Mrs Cat....

Clear as mud after that performance that modern refs and linos have no idea how to ref a game without the support/crutch/smokescreen of VAR.

If we'd have made it through tonight, then the Jaudis would (quite rightly) have had a lot to complain about.

The lino must have been daydreaming to miss Tammy being offside.
Digne's foul was borderline red.
Bizot's DOGSO red - really,? We had 2 or 3 defenders goalside.
Digne handball - was it a pen - could be argued either way that his arms were in a natural/unnatural position.
For their equaliser Burns pushed Onana to the ground before heading it back.

[Somniloquism]

I know it sounds a bit like a crazy conspiracy theory but I can’t help thinking that the officials wanted to prove that VAR was needed.

I doubrt they went "lets prove we need VAR", more this is just what matches used to be like without VAR. Sometimes offsides weren't given. Even in todays game the Digne challenge is given as a yellow 9/10 with VAR maybe correcting it 5 times out of 10. Just general incompetence from the ref for the handball, although I wonder if he would have been as quick to give it if he thought Digne was in the box.

[russon]

Given the manager's professionalism, our gormlessness beggars belief sometimes.

1-0 up in the last minute of the 1st half and we effectively lose the game within 30 seconds flat with 1. a ludicrous attempted Hollywood ball from Bailey 2. literally no-one at the back from their resultant pass and 3. Bizot's Hong Kong Phooey impression.

It's Keystone Kops stuff sometimes, absolutely witless.

[BoVillan esq]

Pathetic, Bizot judgement to come out that far was yet another Villa goalkeeping moment of madness, what was he thinking, I thought the next massive mistake was taking Bailey off, we lost all attacking pressure on the right side surely Unai couldn't have believed we was going to defend deep for the whole of the 2nd half and survive, down to ten men you have to find a way to keep attacking, thought Barclay was almost invisible, thought Rogers was absolutely incredible in the first half, thought the link play between Rogers, Tammy and Bailey was very good.

Great pity because we can't foul up Europe now we have to win that.

[Paul.S]

One moment of madness cost us. We were comfortable with 11 but with 10 never a chance. Midfield absolutely knackered with nothing off the bench really.
Luiz isn’t up to scratch yet, Onana appears scared to get injured and that’s all we have there for now as Barkley isn’t match fit.

[Mister E]

Bailey 7 - divided opinions when on pitch, crazy decision to go for a cross field pass that led to red card but up to then I was impressed. Direct, good touch, strong on ball, poor decision making but kept trying to do the right thing. Missed a bit of a sitter but positive signs for me. Awful decision to hook him first
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Most of your scores were reasonable, Bronte, but this is just wrongheaded. Bailey, despite trying to do the right things, was awful. And, he was bound to be hooked after Bizot's madness.
Our search for a right-sided midfield-winger continues.

[Small Rodent]

Annoying mistakes to lose the game, but hey! The DOW is over 50,000!

[brontebilly]

Bailey 7 - divided opinions when on pitch, crazy decision to go for a cross field pass that led to red card but up to then I was impressed. Direct, good touch, strong on ball, poor decision making but kept trying to do the right thing. Missed a bit of a sitter but positive signs for me. Awful decision to hook him first
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Most of your scores were reasonable, Bronte, but this is just wrongheaded. Bailey, despite trying to do the right things, was awful. And, he was bound to be hooked after Bizot's madness.
Our search for a right-sided midfield-winger continues.

McGinn is back in a week or two. Agree to disagree on Bailey, our shape went to bits after he went off. At least he can run, Barkley can't.

[Ianu]

Annoying mistakes to lose the game, but hey! The DOW is over 50,000!

I don’t think it is.

[PaulWinch again]

I thought Bailey was ok and he is one of the few players we have with pace - which we needed.

[Ianu]

I thought Bailey was ok and he is one of the few players we have with pace - which we needed.

If he has pace, he rarely uses it. He tends to zig zag, turn in etc. Never pushes the ball forward and try and beat the man, like a true winger does

[rougegorge]

Why can’t we play like that against ten men?

We don’t have pace and we don’t adapt our approach when the opposition have 10 men.

Yes, compare our slow approach against Brentford's 10. You don't necessarily have to have a lot of pace, but you do have to play more quickly to stretch the opposition, which is what Newcastle were doing.

Also we didn't play very well with 10 tonight. Compare with Brentford again, where they maintained shape, closed down and blocked and cleared into less dangerous areas.

[Pat McMahon]

Interesting reading th thread. I was in K5 and unanimously people were blaming Bailey for a shite pass for the red card. No excuse for it in injury time just hoof it back in. I haven’t seen the incident r back but thought Bizot came out too far too quickly.

Until the red card I thought they were toothless and didn’t bother us at all. That moment of idiocy cost us the game.

Really annoyed we couldn’t hold out longer down to 10 men when Brentford did a job on us for longer away from home, albeit aided by some poor decision making.

I was in K5 and atmosphere was excellent for most of the game, particularly beginning of second half to support the team, though lost belief after their second. You could barely hear Newcastle fans until their equaliser- poor for 6k fans.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s a poor pass from Bailey, but we should never be so exposed in that situation given the state of the game.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

I thought Bailey was ok and he is one of the few players we have with pace - which we needed.

If he has pace, he rarely uses it. He tends to zig zag, turn in etc. Never pushes the ball forward and try and beat the man, like a true winger does

He plays on the wrong side so is always looking to slow down and cut inside on his stronger foot, he rarely gets to build up a head of steam. Although I think he is slower than he was.