Aston Villa v Brentford Post-Match Thread

[andyh]

If Konsa can’t or is no good at shooting why was he always ending up with the ball in a position that would allow him to do so? Surely in such instances it would have made sense to swap with someone who could, no?Pointless crossing the ball in because they have 6 foot 6 defenders so let’s just pass it around to each other, that should break them down I couldn’t for the life of me.

We were utterly clueless. This emphasised by the fact we kept doing the same thing over and over and expected a different outcome.

We were saying for the same for the last 20 minutes. Dougie should have taking up that position, camped 25 yards from their goal, that Konsa was wasting.

[The Edge]

If Konsa can’t or is no good at shooting why was he always ending up with the ball in a position that would allow him to do so? Surely in such instances it would have made sense to swap with someone who could, no?Pointless crossing the ball in because they have 6 foot 6 defenders so let’s just pass it around to each other, that should break them down I couldn’t for the life of me.

We were utterly clueless. This emphasised by the fact we kept doing the same thing over and over and expected a different outcome.

We were saying for the same for the last 20 minutes. Dougie should have taking up that position, camped 25 yards from their goal, that Konsa was wasting.

The amount of times we saw Konsa and Pau passing the ball to one another on the edge of their area was ridiculous. I doubt there's any stats to back that up but it must be some kind of record. Brentford did exactly what you'd expect them to in the circumstances. Pack the box and block block block. It made for a god awful spectacle and there can't of been many neutrals still watching at the end. Teams are packing men behind the ball when they come to Villa Park and are denying us any space whatsoever. Everton did the same. We're in for some turgid football at Villa Park against the lesser clubs. A different approach is needed now to break down the anti football brigade who aren't interested in making the game entertaining.

[Demitri_C]

So gutted this morning

Im glad we have no midweek game. Gove us a opportunity  to regroup and out this right next weekend. We simply  cannot afford another loss

[Duncan Shaw]

Listening to Unai post-match, it is like he hates the transfer window.  That seemed to be responsible for our early season shiteness, and now w are having a blip during this one too.  He seemed to be saying he is looking forward to it being over and then we can crack on again.

[PaulWinch again]

So gutted this morning

Im glad we have no midweek game. Gove us a opportunity  to regroup and out this right next weekend. We simply  cannot afford another loss

We can, but it’d be better if we didn’t.

[Demitri_C]

So gutted this morning

Im glad we have no midweek game. Gove us a opportunity  to regroup and out this right next weekend. We simply  cannot afford another loss

We can, but it’d be better if we didn’t.

I think it would put massive pressure on us of we lose and manure won. That takes it to one point with united when you consider GD.  That would be very worrying for morale for me as we seem to crumble  under pressure

[PaulWinch again]

So I was with your criticism yesterday, but I think you’re spinning out on this a bit now. We could definitely do with a win at the weekend - but as has been demonstrated those around us are well capable of ropey runs of form.

[Demitri_C]

So I was with your criticism yesterday, but I think you’re spinning out on this a bit now. We could definitely do with a win at the weekend - but as has been demonstrated those around us are well capable of ropey runs of form.

Im just highlighting  the point that two losses in a row will be very bad for us considering.  It would be 3 defeats in 4 against some average  sides. We need to take advantage  while we can before we play manure and chelsea. Those will be tough games which  we are likely to drop points. We need a nice cushion until those games 🙂

[PeterWithe]

We seemed to lack a little imagination to break them down, we really needed to be a bit braver and get the full backs forward much quicker to create wide overloads and chances to deliver the ball into the box with their mutants facing their own goal. A carbon copy of the Everton game, we have all the ball, all the chances but don’t really give the keeper and awful lot to do, and the one shot we did really connect with, he spills into Tammys path.

On the disallowed goal, I was moaning to an acquaintance after about the time taken to look at it, he said it happened right in front of him and he was also surprised at the amount of time to review it as it was ‘fucking miles out’, I can’t bear to watch it for myself

On tactics, when we were endlessly circulating the ball from side to side outside their area, surely we should have tried pushing Pau or Konsa into the centre forward position for height and allowing the impressive Duggie the space there for a pass or shot? As it was they were quite happy to allow us the ball there time over.

Still, we all thought the injury situation would cost us points and it has, but we maybe rightly expected more from this game

[UK Redsox]

That VAR took so long that, even with the crappy phone signal in the LTR, we saw video (of the ball being way out of play) a couple of minutes before the announcement.

If the decision was purely (and unfortunately, correctly) made on factual grounds, VAR should have taken less than a minute.
Were the Refs chatting about whether they were even allowed to look at it ?

[UK Redsox]

If Konsa can’t or is no good at shooting why was he always ending up with the ball in a position that would allow him to do so? Surely in such instances it would have made sense to swap with someone who could, no?Pointless crossing the ball in because they have 6 foot 6 defenders so let’s just pass it around to each other, that should break them down I couldn’t for the life of me.

We were utterly clueless. This emphasised by the fact we kept doing the same thing over and over and expected a different outcome.

We were saying for the same for the last 20 minutes. Dougie should have taking up that position, camped 25 yards from their goal, that Konsa was wasting.

Same chat between a few of us behind the dugouts.

It was clear that Konsa and, to a lesser extent Pau, needed to be moved out of the way to let Doug, Morgs and Emi2 dictate play.

[RamboandBruno]

We seemed to lack a little imagination to break them down, we really needed to be a bit braver and get the full backs forward much quicker to create wide overloads and chances to deliver the ball into the box with their mutants facing their own goal. A carbon copy of the Everton game, we have all the ball, all the chances but don’t really give the keeper and awful lot to do, and the one shot we did really connect with, he spills into Tammys path.

On the disallowed goal, I was moaning to an acquaintance after about the time taken to look at it, he said it happened right in front of him and he was also surprised at the amount of time to review it as it was ‘fucking miles out’, I can’t bear to watch it for myself

On tactics, when we were endlessly circulating the ball from side to side outside their area, surely we should have tried pushing Pau or Konsa into the centre forward position for height and allowing the impressive Duggie the space there for a pass or shot? As it was they were quite happy to allow us the ball there time over.

Still, we all thought the injury situation would cost us points and it has, but we maybe rightly expected more from this game

From the lower holte my son didn't even celebrate the goal, he said the ball was well out. Hey ho.

[TheToffnar]

Don't feel as shitty as I did after the Everton game where the shadow of two very difficult away fixtures loomed large, but still pissed off.

Actually thought we where ok for stretches. Dougie was great, Tammy looked relatively sharp, Cash as excellent as ever, but yet another game where we should be stamping our statement of intent for all to see and we just sort of wither on the vine a little.

In all honesty, I don't see how else we could have played that out in the second half. If a team sits back that deep and is that defensively on point, you're relying on a lucky deflection and/or second ball to fall your way, it just didn't happen and the game was lost as soon as we conceded.

Not going to be to dour about it. Wasn't our best performance of the season but was far from our worst. There was enough in the game for me to feel that we've still got more to give. Bournemouth will be tough, but the game will be more open which will suit our style far better.