Quote from: Stu on December 31, 2025, 10:16:11 AMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on December 31, 2025, 09:49:24 AMQuote from: Stu on December 31, 2025, 09:36:42 AMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on December 31, 2025, 09:26:34 AMQuote from: Beard82 on December 31, 2025, 09:23:02 AMI think PSR is perfectly valid - we are doing amazing despite the restrictions PSR places on us. It makes it harder to compete because you need a squad of 22 players at a similar level and we probably only have 16. We’re doing better than most of them because we’re doing everything else right - whereas a lot of the clubs were doing better than are simply not as well ran as we areSo you’re saying being well run can overcome the disadvantages of having less revenue? I think we agree.The stars have to align completely though. Being well run isn’t enough, lots of other teams are well run. A club also needs a genius for a manager, which we’re lucky to have.I did mention that in my list of things that constitute being well run higher up the thread.Fair. I just don’t think these rules can be disregarded as a check on ambition. We and other clubs would have to be run perfectly from top to bottom, consistently compete in the CL and win things for a couple of decades to catch up with teams who don’t have PSR concerns.Disagree. Mainly because we are already doing better than clubs without PSR concerns (Chelsea, Manure, Spurs) despite not consistently competing in the CL or having those decades of winning things.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on December 31, 2025, 09:49:24 AMQuote from: Stu on December 31, 2025, 09:36:42 AMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on December 31, 2025, 09:26:34 AMQuote from: Beard82 on December 31, 2025, 09:23:02 AMI think PSR is perfectly valid - we are doing amazing despite the restrictions PSR places on us. It makes it harder to compete because you need a squad of 22 players at a similar level and we probably only have 16. We’re doing better than most of them because we’re doing everything else right - whereas a lot of the clubs were doing better than are simply not as well ran as we areSo you’re saying being well run can overcome the disadvantages of having less revenue? I think we agree.The stars have to align completely though. Being well run isn’t enough, lots of other teams are well run. A club also needs a genius for a manager, which we’re lucky to have.I did mention that in my list of things that constitute being well run higher up the thread.Fair. I just don’t think these rules can be disregarded as a check on ambition. We and other clubs would have to be run perfectly from top to bottom, consistently compete in the CL and win things for a couple of decades to catch up with teams who don’t have PSR concerns.
Quote from: Stu on December 31, 2025, 09:36:42 AMQuote from: Percy McCarthy on December 31, 2025, 09:26:34 AMQuote from: Beard82 on December 31, 2025, 09:23:02 AMI think PSR is perfectly valid - we are doing amazing despite the restrictions PSR places on us. It makes it harder to compete because you need a squad of 22 players at a similar level and we probably only have 16. We’re doing better than most of them because we’re doing everything else right - whereas a lot of the clubs were doing better than are simply not as well ran as we areSo you’re saying being well run can overcome the disadvantages of having less revenue? I think we agree.The stars have to align completely though. Being well run isn’t enough, lots of other teams are well run. A club also needs a genius for a manager, which we’re lucky to have.I did mention that in my list of things that constitute being well run higher up the thread.
Quote from: Percy McCarthy on December 31, 2025, 09:26:34 AMQuote from: Beard82 on December 31, 2025, 09:23:02 AMI think PSR is perfectly valid - we are doing amazing despite the restrictions PSR places on us. It makes it harder to compete because you need a squad of 22 players at a similar level and we probably only have 16. We’re doing better than most of them because we’re doing everything else right - whereas a lot of the clubs were doing better than are simply not as well ran as we areSo you’re saying being well run can overcome the disadvantages of having less revenue? I think we agree.The stars have to align completely though. Being well run isn’t enough, lots of other teams are well run. A club also needs a genius for a manager, which we’re lucky to have.
Quote from: Beard82 on December 31, 2025, 09:23:02 AMI think PSR is perfectly valid - we are doing amazing despite the restrictions PSR places on us. It makes it harder to compete because you need a squad of 22 players at a similar level and we probably only have 16. We’re doing better than most of them because we’re doing everything else right - whereas a lot of the clubs were doing better than are simply not as well ran as we areSo you’re saying being well run can overcome the disadvantages of having less revenue? I think we agree.
I think PSR is perfectly valid - we are doing amazing despite the restrictions PSR places on us. It makes it harder to compete because you need a squad of 22 players at a similar level and we probably only have 16. We’re doing better than most of them because we’re doing everything else right - whereas a lot of the clubs were doing better than are simply not as well ran as we are