Aston Villa vs Man United Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithesShin]

109.56km v 113.9km v Arsenal

[AV82EC]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory. 

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory.

Compare the end of last season where we finished strongly, with the exception of at OT, and the previous conference league season where we were running on fumes to cross the line.

[AV82EC]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory.

Compare the end of last season where we finished strongly, with the exception of at OT, and the previous conference league season where we were running on fumes to cross the line.

Exactly.

[rob_bridge]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory.

Compare the end of last season where we finished strongly, with the exception of at OT, and the previous conference league season where we were running on fumes to cross the line.

Exactly.

Agree with all this. Can’t get too exercised about Europa League performances when we have won 5/6. We need to avoid those two extra games.

Look at how inconsistent Spurs and Newcastle are due to additional ECL demands. Everton and Palace with much thinner squads are doing better.

[rob_bridge]

Fuck the Hyprpctical Neville Fuck Ratboy Fuck Simon Stone Fuck all the Whinging sycophants in the media for the last 60 years. Fuck all their plastic fans Fuck the celeb fsns more.

Luke Littler and Angry Ginge seem alright.

I dunno who latter is.

Ok 95% of them

[Dante Lavelli]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory. 

Not disagreeing with your point, but I think we have decent strength and should be able to manage the players’ minutes.

Mings, Pau, Digne, Buendia, Malen, and Barkley are senior pros that weren’t selected yesterday. Bogarde looks decent and needs minutes.  There’s a risk we will become stretched for attacking players as Guessand, Sancho, and Elliot are underwhelming, but even here we can repurpose Barkley and Tielemans to add some further options.

[AV82EC]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory. 

Not disagreeing with your point, but I think we have decent strength and should be able to manage the players’ minutes.

Mings, Pau, Digne, Buendia, Malen, and Barkley are senior pros that weren’t selected yesterday. Bogarde looks decent and needs minutes.  There’s a risk we will become stretched for attacking players as Guessand, Sancho, and Elliot are underwhelming, but even here we can repurpose Barkley and Tielemans to add some depth.

Which is fair comment DL. I suppose what separates us from the likes of Newcastle, Man U and Spurs is the bang for buck we get from our squad as opposed to them. And that’s down to one man and his back room team and their management and coaching of the team.

[rob_bridge]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory. 

Not disagreeing with your point, but I think we have decent strength and should be able to manage the players’ minutes.

Mings, Pau, Digne, Buendia, Malen, and Barkley are senior pros that weren’t selected yesterday. Bogarde looks decent and needs minutes.  There’s a risk we will become stretched for attacking players as Guessand, Sancho, and Elliot are underwhelming, but even here we can repurpose Barkley and Tielemans to add some depth.

Which is fair comment DL. I suppose what separates us from the likes of Newcastle, Man U and Spurs is the bang for buck we get from our squad as opposed to them. And that’s down to one man and his back room team and their management and coaching of the team.

Emery joins Newcastle instead of us in early 2022, we'd likely be nowhere near Europe, and Spurs wouldn't be part of Big6 anymore.

[Dante Lavelli]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory. 

Not disagreeing with your point, but I think we have decent strength and should be able to manage the players’ minutes.

Mings, Pau, Digne, Buendia, Malen, and Barkley are senior pros that weren’t selected yesterday. Bogarde looks decent and needs minutes.  There’s a risk we will become stretched for attacking players as Guessand, Sancho, and Elliot are underwhelming, but even here we can repurpose Barkley and Tielemans to add some depth.

Which is fair comment DL. I suppose what separates us from the likes of Newcastle, Man U and Spurs is the bang for buck we get from our squad as opposed to them. And that’s down to one man and his back room team and their management and coaching of the team.

“The Bang for Buck” metric is spot on. A combination of good management and flexible players means we are getting way more from our budget compared to the teams around us (actually below us).

Man U and Spurs are good examples of clubs that consistently spend way more but actually create problems by having too many players.

[Pat McMahon]

Even more ecstatic that we beat them whilst not at our best. HOW many times have they done that to us over the years.

Been a long time coming that one, and hopefully the first of many. UTV.

I too take extra joy from this. Fernandes getting injured without anyone touching him was also an unexpected win.

Very magnanimous of John to kick the ball out rather than pick it up and go for goal when the nag pulled up.

Yep. Classy sportsmanship.

I was howling at McGinn to tear down the pitch. Would have been brilliant and 1% payback  for all the refereeing atrocities we’ve suffered against them over the years.

Note Tielemans was down for a while in the second half with what from afar looked like an head injury and ref boy just allowed play to go on. Twat.

[Pat McMahon]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory.

Compare the end of last season where we finished strongly, with the exception of at OT, and the previous conference league season where we were running on fumes to cross the line.

Exactly.

I usually look at the match stats on BBC and we invariably run fewer kn than the opposition. They split it into jogging, sprinting and full speed Ross Barkley and we are always lowest on the sprints.

To me it’s  a very considered tactic by Emery to manage our squad. I think he has learned from spring 2023.

[PeterWithesShin]

Non Villa view

[Crown Hill]

If you don’t manage minutes and effort it eventually catches up with you. It’s easy for the big turnover clubs with large squads to manage, for us, we’ve got to be careful and our lower tempo almost continental style is the way to do it. The benefit will be felt when we’re still strong in the title run in and challenging for European Glory.

Compare the end of last season where we finished strongly, with the exception of at OT, and the previous conference league season where we were running on fumes to cross the line.

Exactly.

I usually look at the match stats on BBC and we invariably run fewer kn than the opposition. They split it into jogging, sprinting and full speed Ross Barkley and we are always lowest on the sprints.

To me it’s  a very considered tactic by Emery to manage our squad. I think he has learned from spring 2023.

Yep can’t be bothered to get into an argument but to me it’s absolutely obvious we are conserving energy first half. It’s been the pattern since at least the 0-2 win at Arsenal two seasons ago. When the subs come on we play a different tempo and Unai’s arm waving starts!

[paul_e]

Non Villa view

Good lad, and he seemed to enjoy himself.