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Offline Garyth

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #75 on: Today at 04:10:36 AM »
We wwill have to adapt but so will our opponents. We're getting a reputation for these goals now, and that's going to mean teams start trying to occupy those spaces, which creates space elsewhere. We just need to have the players be composed and confident enough to adapt their play to the game and start exploiting the new gaps that open up. I think that's exactly what we're training them to do because we can score the simpler goals when we see a less crowded box as we've done a couple of times.

I think this is the key. Even the worst teams in the PL have top analysts able to identify strengths of opposition. We've seen a lot of stodgy games over the last year as teams defend deep and crowd the middle of the pitch to deny our passing lanes.

It makes sense to take advantage of that, and I'm sure that Emery will have a plan for when teams inevitably set 2 or 3 players to rush at players just outside the box.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #76 on: Today at 08:35:29 AM »
We wwill have to adapt but so will our opponents. We're getting a reputation for these goals now, and that's going to mean teams start trying to occupy those spaces, which creates space elsewhere. We just need to have the players be composed and confident enough to adapt their play to the game and start exploiting the new gaps that open up. I think that's exactly what we're training them to do because we can score the simpler goals when we see a less crowded box as we've done a couple of times.

I think this is the key. Even the worst teams in the PL have top analysts able to identify strengths of opposition. We've seen a lot of stodgy games over the last year as teams defend deep and crowd the middle of the pitch to deny our passing lanes.

It makes sense to take advantage of that, and I'm sure that Emery will have a plan for when teams inevitably set 2 or 3 players to rush at players just outside the box.

It could equally be argued that Arsenal depend too much on corners. Last weekend, when down to 10 men, Chelsea left 3 forwards up by the halfway line when the Arses had a corner. The Arses had to keep 4 players back and the Chelsea goalie caught the ball unimpeded.

That problem was solved easily. But stopping players shooting from outside the box in open play is not so easy.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #77 on: Today at 08:55:46 AM »
It could equally be argued that Arsenal depend too much on corners. Last weekend, when down to 10 men, Chelsea left 3 forwards up by the halfway line when the Arses had a corner. The Arses had to keep 4 players back and the Chelsea goalie caught the ball unimpeded.

Someone has explained this to me before and I recall it making sense, but I still don't understand why teams don't just do this as standard. Leave your two nippiest players in the centre circle, and any sort of decent clearance or goalkeeper claiming the ball and you're away, unless the opponent sacrifice players who they'd want to otherwise be attacking the corner.

At the very least, it's going to mess up whatever clever, pre-prepared corner routine they had in mind.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #78 on: Today at 09:11:56 AM »
I mean, I would rather like us to start scoring a few more normal goals, or indeed just goals in general (Unai's commented on this too). Goal of the season will be fun though.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #79 on: Today at 09:31:33 AM »
I mean, I would rather like us to start scoring a few more normal goals, or indeed just goals in general (Unai's commented on this too). Goal of the season will be fun though.

no one will complain about more goals but since the spell at the start where we couldn't score our goalscoring record has been fine.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #80 on: Today at 09:33:24 AM »
It could equally be argued that Arsenal depend too much on corners. Last weekend, when down to 10 men, Chelsea left 3 forwards up by the halfway line when the Arses had a corner. The Arses had to keep 4 players back and the Chelsea goalie caught the ball unimpeded.

Someone has explained this to me before and I recall it making sense, but I still don't understand why teams don't just do this as standard. Leave your two nippiest players in the centre circle, and any sort of decent clearance or goalkeeper claiming the ball and you're away, unless the opponent sacrifice players who they'd want to otherwise be attacking the corner.

At the very least, it's going to mess up whatever clever, pre-prepared corner routine they had in mind.

Yes, that rings a bell with me as well, wasn’t it (something like) if you left, say, 4 players up when defending a corner then, theoretically, you wouldn’t necessarily need four defenders to mark them as they would all be facing the clearance and a lesser number of defenders who can attack the ball whilst it’s in the air to reach them, again theoretically, should be able to deal with it. So you can commit more forward to your attacking corner.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #81 on: Today at 09:35:54 AM »
I mean, I would rather like us to start scoring a few more normal goals, or indeed just goals in general (Unai's commented on this too). Goal of the season will be fun though.

no one will complain about more goals but since the spell at the start where we couldn't score our goalscoring record has been fine.

Sure, but let's be real here - we're really going to go the whole of the rest of the season, competitive, with over half of our goals being awesome long shots? I just don't see it. We need to start getting back to opening teams a up a bit more somehow.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #82 on: Today at 09:37:40 AM »
Clough used to leave a couple up, the theory being the box was less cluttered so it was easier for Shilton to come and take the ball, and it should work for us as Martinez is easily the best around at coming out to catch the ball.

Offline PaulTheVillan

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #83 on: Today at 09:54:40 AM »
Whilst I don't think we'll win the league, if we got some consistency in our front 3 then I think we could make top 6 without a problem.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #84 on: Today at 10:49:12 AM »
Whilst I don't think we'll win the league, if we got some consistency in our front 3 then I think we could make top 6 without a problem.

We're better than we were last season before we had the January injection. Repeat it again an we should get into the Champions League with room to spare.

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Re: Will we win the Premier League
« Reply #85 on: Today at 10:51:35 AM »
I mean, I would rather like us to start scoring a few more normal goals, or indeed just goals in general (Unai's commented on this too). Goal of the season will be fun though.

no one will complain about more goals but since the spell at the start where we couldn't score our goalscoring record has been fine.

Sure, but let's be real here - we're really going to go the whole of the rest of the season, competitive, with over half of our goals being awesome long shots? I just don't see it. We need to start getting back to opening teams a up a bit more somehow.

We’re going to start scoring penalties. :)

 


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