With the adjusted criteria:BunnBeye Senderos Baker ShoreyEl Ahmadi Sylla SanchezHolman Hogan RichardsonI know a few of them didn't play all that often but all of them were signed with the intention of being regulars and the ones who didn't manage that were so shit that we either spent again to replace them or played people out of position in their place. I can accept that I'm probably being a little harsh on El Ahmadi but, for me, having him in our midfield after the likes of Barry, Milner and Delph is the point where the hope under Lerner really died. Baker might also be harsh but if he hadn't come through our academy he'd probably have struggled to have a career much above League 1, that he played well over 100 times for us shows just how far we'd fallen by the time we got relegated.
Sanchez is the single worst player I've seen.
Based on the approx. 40 games minimum criteria I'll go as below (since 1996). Obviously the likes of Tonev, Balaban, Danny Drinkwater, Mark Bunn etc. would be included with a less strict criteria on the amount of games. It also feels harsh to include Nyland considering his performance in the League Cup semi, but I'm struggling for a terrible keeper that played that many games.NylandRichards, Elphick, Lescott, CissokhoBacuna, Kinsella, Sanchez, RichardsonGestede, C.Cole
There's a few from the 1986-1987 relegation season I can think of too!!!
God bless his soul but Bernie Gallagher is an absolute shoe in at left back.
Quote from: paul_e on November 18, 2025, 09:57:43 AMWith the adjusted criteria:BunnBeye Senderos Baker ShoreyEl Ahmadi Sylla SanchezHolman Hogan RichardsonI know a few of them didn't play all that often but all of them were signed with the intention of being regulars and the ones who didn't manage that were so shit that we either spent again to replace them or played people out of position in their place. I can accept that I'm probably being a little harsh on El Ahmadi but, for me, having him in our midfield after the likes of Barry, Milner and Delph is the point where the hope under Lerner really died. Baker might also be harsh but if he hadn't come through our academy he'd probably have struggled to have a career much above League 1, that he played well over 100 times for us shows just how far we'd fallen by the time we got relegated.Think some of them were more huge disappointments rather than worst ever. Beye and Shorey were decent enough mid table prem full backs when we got both in but neither were much good for us under MON and became expensive wage drains.From memory didn't Senderos play about five games with Vlaar in which we kept 3-4 clean sheets then picked up an injury and was never seen again? I can remember him being brilliant away to Liverpool so that's a surprising one.Never ever rated Clark as a CB. He was a bit like Ridgwell, always had an error in him at key point in game and we conceded a huge amount from corners when he was a regular.
How often did Aleksander "crap with both feet" Tonev play for us?
Quote from: SoccerHQ on November 18, 2025, 11:04:17 AMQuote from: paul_e on November 18, 2025, 09:57:43 AMWith the adjusted criteria:BunnBeye Senderos Baker ShoreyEl Ahmadi Sylla SanchezHolman Hogan RichardsonI know a few of them didn't play all that often but all of them were signed with the intention of being regulars and the ones who didn't manage that were so shit that we either spent again to replace them or played people out of position in their place. I can accept that I'm probably being a little harsh on El Ahmadi but, for me, having him in our midfield after the likes of Barry, Milner and Delph is the point where the hope under Lerner really died. Baker might also be harsh but if he hadn't come through our academy he'd probably have struggled to have a career much above League 1, that he played well over 100 times for us shows just how far we'd fallen by the time we got relegated.Think some of them were more huge disappointments rather than worst ever. Beye and Shorey were decent enough mid table prem full backs when we got both in but neither were much good for us under MON and became expensive wage drains.From memory didn't Senderos play about five games with Vlaar in which we kept 3-4 clean sheets then picked up an injury and was never seen again? I can remember him being brilliant away to Liverpool so that's a surprising one.Never ever rated Clark as a CB. He was a bit like Ridgwell, always had an error in him at key point in game and we conceded a huge amount from corners when he was a regular.My thinking with Senderos, Beye and Shorey is partially that I didn't want to just fill the team with the relegation squad but also because all 3 were signed as established players ready to come in a do a job and, for whatever reason, they turned invisible within weeks. I think it's because I find utterly pointless players more of an issue than players who just aren't good enough. That's also why Bowery didn't get included but I struggled to pick between Richardson and Dawkins. Also (dis)honourable mention to Balaban, Berson, Makoun and Bradley (and many others) for similar reasons.The other one I reckon is controversial is Holman over Tonev but I knew the latter would get mentions so I went with a player so forgettable he probably needs a few minutes looking in the mirror every morning.
Quote from: cdbearsfan on November 18, 2025, 09:25:39 AMWe've had far worse than Bacuna.That was the stand-out for me too. Think that back four is probably the textbook answer though.
We've had far worse than Bacuna.