Winter 25-26 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[Baldy]

That is very positive pollyanna 💪😀

How did you know my middle name? 

[Dave]

wasn’t he a non entity at Everton ?

He was, but he was very young. Had a great season for Fiorentina last year. Less good this year.

[VILLA MOLE]

wasn’t he a non entity at Everton ?

He was, but he was very young. Had a great season for Fiorentina last year. Less good this year.

yes just looked 24 goals in 50 games and  11 goals in 24 for Italy ..  He wont be cheap i imagine

[Villatillidie25]

What’s going on at Fiorentina? Did ok last year but complete basket case this year although bit of a resurgence of late has given them a decent chance of avoiding the drop

[eye digress]

You’d imagine we’d run it past UEFA if that’s what we want to do.

More likely they’ll get the legal team to run the rule over it all and find a loop hole. We won’t get anywhere going cap in hand to that lot.

Seems to be what we did with Osula in August.

[aj2k77]

Associated deal bullshit wouldn't stand up in court. Basically we can't sign anyone from a team we sold a player to as they'd claim the fees are inflated?

[Brazilian Villain]

Some Dodgy feed linking us with Kean

🚨 Aston Villa have begun to make a decisive move for Fiorentina striker, Moise Kean 🇮🇹

Malen to be replaced by the MK Don? 

[paul_e]

With Malen almost departed I suspect we will soon reveal our hand onhis replacement is. 

They wouldn’t take this risk unless they have a notable replacement lined up.  The finances cannot be that bad.

Aren’t we still stuffed by the same punishment we were under over the summer though (ie net nil spend). So the finances might slowly be getting better (& it will be very slow given the way they’re accounted for) but the sanction still restricts what we can do.

I think that is the case too.

I think so too, but if the only sanction is that we can't add them to our Europa League squad, you'd think that potential signings are going to be more interested in the "top three in the Premier League" bit of our season.

UEFA might however decide that we're being cheeky and the suspended bit of the punishment is enforced next summer as well. Which would be annoying.

I'm not sure they have any mechanism to do that. Some of the rules in place would still apply but so long as what we're doing doesn't breach any of those UEFA would have no grounds to punish us for being cheeky. I think they're already over-reaching with some of what they're doing regarding the valuation of players in swap deal but if they started stepping outside of their own judgement because they don't think we're operating within the spirit of it then I'm pretty certain it'd be legally challenged by us very quickly.

[Dave]

I'm not sure they have any mechanism to do that. Some of the rules in place would still apply but so long as what we're doing doesn't breach any of those UEFA would have no grounds to punish us for being cheeky. I think they're already over-reaching with some of what they're doing regarding the valuation of players in swap deal but if they started stepping outside of their own judgement because they don't think we're operating within the spirit of it then I'm pretty certain it'd be legally challenged by us very quickly.

I think the mechanisms are in the original judgement aren't they?

7. Sporting Disciplinary Measures

• The Club agrees to be subject to a sporting restriction and, as a consequence, may not

register any new player on its List A to UEFA club competitions unless the List A Transfer
Balance is positive.

• The List A Transfer Balance is defined as the difference between the cost savings from
outgoing players (“Cost savings”) and the new costs from incoming players (“New costs”) at
any applicable deadline for the Club’s submission of its List A.

• The sporting restriction is foreseen as follows:
• It unconditionally applies in the 2025/26 season;
• It conditionally applies in the 2026/27 season, if the Club has a Football Earnings
deficit in the reporting period 2025;
• It conditionally applies in the 2027/28 season, if the Club exceeds the 2026 Target;
and
• It conditionally applies in the 2028/29 season if the Club exceeds the Final Target
by less than EUR 20 million.

• Should the Club exceed any Target of the Settlement by more than EUR 10 million, but less
than EUR 20 million, the limitation shall be more restrictive, as the calculated Cost savings
from outgoing players shall be reduced by 50% (i.e., the New costs from incoming players
will have to be less than 50% of the Cost savings from outgoing players).

Now, I'm just a simple hyper-chicken from a backwoods asteroid - but that seems to suggest that the same restrictions will apply for the 26/27 seeason, if we don't also have a transfer profit for this year as well.

[paul_e]

Yes, but it explicitly says it's based on the uefa squad. They'd have to add new assessment criteria that aren't included to punish us for spending money outside that (that fits within the general financial rules). That's what I mean by there being no mechanism for it.

[Somniloquism]

Kean was shit in the Premier League.

In my view, failed the interview.

Salah failed his interview back when he was the same age.

[Dave]

Yes, but it explicitly says it's based on the uefa squad. They'd have to add new assessment criteria that aren't included to punish us for spending money outside that (that fits within the general financial rules). That's what I mean by there being no mechanism for it.

But let's say we go and spend £60m on Marmoush, don't include him in our Europa Squad on Feb 1st. Happy days, we go and win the league. As I said, I think that the level of player we'd hopefully sign in these circumstances wouldn't be all that arsed about not being involved in the Europa League this season.

But come the summer, UEFA say "but you still can't register any new players on your A list, because you now have a 'Football Earnings deficit' for this reporting period because you spent £60m on Marmoush back in January. So your punishment isn't suspended, you've got another year of it".

And those players will be arsed about next years (hoped for) Champions League campaign.

Put it this way, if it's all fine and we don't need to worry about future UEFA A list squads, there's no discernible reason we wouldn't be beefing up the squad and spending loads of money this January, is there?

[eamonn]

I would rather Robbie !  ( not really but felt it is a thing to say )

Maybe we are restricted to buying Irish strikers!

As for Moise, why the hell are we always linked to him?

[Tuscans]

🚨🟡🔴 Donyell Malen to AS Roma, here we go! Deal in place with Aston Villa and player’s agents.

Malen, authorized by Villa to fly to Roma today.

£2m loan fee, £25m buy clause to become mandatory. #AVFC accept all conditions of loan deal, manager by Roma director Ricky Massara.

[Brazilian Villain]

🚨🟡🔴 Donyell Malen to AS Roma, here we go! Deal in place with Aston Villa and player’s agents.

Malen, authorized by Villa to fly to Roma today.

£2m loan fee, £25m buy clause to become mandatory. #AVFC accept all conditions of loan deal, manager by Roma director Ricky Massara.

At least the fees are in pounds rather than euros. Makes more sense now.