Winter 25-26 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[brontebilly]

Sancho needs to go too. Complete waste of space. Elliot and Sancho to RBL & Dortmund.

[cdbearsfan]

Elliot can't play for anyone other than us and Liverpool.

[Dave]

I’d imagine we can and will look to do loans.  We need a Rashford style impact. 

I was trying to think of someone in a similar situation to what he was that needs rescuing but I'm struggling.

And unless we're going to pay Liverpool a load of money to send Elliott back, they need to be from abroad as we can't have more than two domestic ones.

Surely we won’t keep Elliot - it’d be mad to carry on like this for all parties. 

But unless Liverpool want him back in order to play him (which I accept, is obviously possible in their current state) why would they agree to have him on their bench paying his wages rather than him being on our bench with us paying his wages?

Unless we basically pay them at least the equivalent amount of money, I just don't see what's in it for them to have the deal ripped up. And if they planned to use him they wouldn't have sent him to us in the first place.

[Sexual Ealing]

But Elliott knows Liverpool and they like him there so he should just go there or to somewhere else that's convenient and financially beneficial for us. It's the only thing that makes sense.

[cdbearsfan]

We will have to come to some agreement. Pointless the way it is. He should also sack his agent for agreeing a deal that discouraged his new team from picking him.

[brontebilly]

But Elliott knows Liverpool and they like him there so he should just go there or to somewhere else that's convenient and financially beneficial for us. It's the only thing that makes sense.

He started only 2 x PL games for them last season.  Don't think he gets that many more minutes with them if he goes back, they are struggling to keep their wide forwards happy as is.

Just seems very strange that Emery continues to freeze him out with Guessand and Sancho struggling so badly. Would he really be shying away from physical contact like Sancho does?

[Drummond]

We'll end up paying the same regardless of keeping him or sending him back. So, do we want to send him back so Liverpool can play him and get his value going back up, or keeping him, weakening them financially as his value goes down and using him in training and as back up in the event of us encountering more injuries. You'd think that Barkley being out opens the door for him as a sub, given Barkley has been coming on as a 10.

[cdbearsfan]

Renegotiate the ten game rule and start picking him. Better for Liverpool if he plays than sits on the bench, regardless of whether they intend to pick him next season or sell him. His value will only go down otherwise.

[Somniloquism]

Not sure we can just send season long loanee's back on a whim from us without full agreement from their parent clubs. Neither club will suddenly want extra wages on their books for players they don't want or need. Sancho might go if someone decides to fully buy him in January but Elliot is in limbo.

[Dave]

Renegotiate the ten game rule and start picking him. Better for Liverpool if he plays than sits on the bench, regardless of whether they intend to pick him next season or sell him. His value will only go down otherwise.

But what about his time at Villa suggests Emery would start picking him? If we thought he was going to fit into the team, he'd already be playing and we'd be looking forward to buying him, just as we'd planned to.

[cdbearsfan]

We can't afford to. Literally everything that has happened off the pitch since the Man U game has screamed "the rules won't let us spend any money".

[Dante Lavelli]

I’d imagine we can and will look to do loans.  We need a Rashford style impact. 

I was trying to think of someone in a similar situation to what he was that needs rescuing but I'm struggling.

Sancho?

[brontebilly]

Not sure we can just send season long loanee's back on a whim from us without full agreement from their parent clubs. Neither club will suddenly want extra wages on their books for players they don't want or need. Sancho might go if someone decides to fully buy him in January but Elliot is in limbo.

Sancho is out of contract in the summer so Dortmund for example might have to pay Man United a small fee to make that a permanent deal in January if all parties agreed. Not sure where that leaves us from an FFP/PSR perspective, if we paid a loan fee to Man United that's already gone I guess. Getting his wages off the books should be a positive.

RBL were interested in Elliot before, could that move happen in Jan?

[cdbearsfan]

No. Because he can't play for anyone other than Villa or Liverpool this season.

[Dante Lavelli]

I’d imagine we can and will look to do loans.  We need a Rashford style impact. 

I was trying to think of someone in a similar situation to what he was that needs rescuing but I'm struggling.

Rashford's form, combined with Barcelona's financial situation might mean a player becomes available. Raphina or Torres are the names I know but there could be more.  Endrick at Real Madrid is available but likely heading to Lyon according to reports.