The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll

[Dave]

Hope all is peaceful despite the complete dereliction of care from politicians and media.

They're unquestionably the main ones to blame.

But now that's done and the original "thing that means it might not be peaceful" (Maccabi hooligans) isn't a problem anymore, next thing down on the "thing that means it might not be peaceful" list is people who want to turn up and be somewhere on the spectrum between noisy and violent, just because there happen to be some Israeli people in the area.

[Somniloquism]

But the cops are just one of the few reasons mentioned to cover faces.

Yeah, the other was "the far right". Who now have no real reason to be there, other than to confront these guys.

So how about they all go and have their set-to somewhere else with their masks, away from Villa supporting kids and pensioners?

Fair question. The answer is because these Villa kids and pensioners you mention are coming to see Villa playing a team from an apartheid state carrying out a genocide.

Or they are supporting their own team and will be shouted at by masked individuals......nice.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

None of it is nice, that’s the fall out of a genocide. Again not saying masking up is right or wrong. It’s not something I’ve done, just speculating in their reasoning, like you.

Anyway off to the pub to catch the second half.

[brontebilly]

No one says that if the intention is ro be purely peaceful.

That's a stretch. When the local police force have been effectively accused of being anti semitic then you can understand why anybody protesting doesn't want their face on social media for being pro- Palestine/Hamas.

[PeterWithesShin]

No it isn't.

[Somniloquism]

None of it is nice, that’s the fall out of a genocide. Again not saying masking up is right or wrong. It’s not something I’ve done, just speculating in their reasoning, like you.

Anyway off to the pub to catch the second half.

So OUR OWN FANS are allowed to be screamed and shouted at by masked men because they happen to be going to watch our own team play? Go and chant outside of UEFA headquarters instead.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

Did you get your finger stuck on the shift key? if you get shouted at and you don’t like what you hear, shout back.

[PeterWithesShin]

The defence of people giving every impression of turning up at our ground and being anything but peaceful is weird as fuck. I don't care if it's pro-Palestine, Tommy's twats or Villa fans before a random game. Fuck off.

[Somniloquism]

Did you get your finger stuck on the shift key? I’m not going to be there so if you get shouted at and you don’t like what you hear, shout back.

I was trying to emphasise you seem to be missing that it is Villa fans being harrassed by deliberately masked protestors and even seem to be indicating they deserve to be. But you be you and just fuck off down the pub.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

I also think WMP will be able to handle this now the MTA thugs won’t be there.

[Dave]

The defence of people giving every impression of turning up at our ground and being anything but peaceful is weird as fuck. I don't care if it's pro-Palestine, Tommy's twats or Villa fans before a random game. Fuck off.

I'd also add, that surely part of a visible protest is to try and convince people of the nobleness and righteousness of your cause and persuade enough people to change their views to bring about the aims for which you're campaigning.

I'm extremely sympathetic to (most of) what they're protesting, but I get the feeling that what they want to happen at Villa Park in two weeks is exactly the sort of thing that might make me think that I wouldn't want to be aligned with such people.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

Did you get your finger stuck on the shift key? I’m not going to be there so if you get shouted at and you don’t like what you hear, shout back.

I was trying to emphasise you seem to be missing that it is Villa fans being harrassed by deliberately masked protestors and even seem to be indicating they deserve to be. But you be you and just fuck off down the pub.

Waiting for a pint.

What do you imagine they could shout at you if you go to where they are? I’d guess it might be along the lines of ‘free Palestine’ or something.

Bear in mind I’m Villa and an anti genocide peaceful protestor. I haven’t said anybody deserves anything. Just can see what a circus this has become. See how it goes and if you go down let us know your take then.

[PeterWithe]

I was thinking that WMP, at one time, probably had 5x different groups to think about and control. AntiFa/SWP types, Local Muslim yoot, Maccabbi hooligans, UKIP Tommy Types and Villa Loons who didn't make it into the other groups.

[PeterWithesShin]

Wrong thread

[luke95]

I also think WMP will be able to handle this now the MTA thugs won’t be there.

That is of course they don't still travel over having already booked flights & hotels . Now the police have little idea who & where they are if they do still travel