The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll

[Dave]

I fear this match will end up being banned or moved on or before it gets to match day.

I would wager that there is a 0% chance that this happens.

[olaftab]

The pro Palestine protesters were always going to be the biggest threat for trouble this night .

luke that's ....... Actually I will not say or can say anything that will stand me in good light.

[andyh]

Seems like some are buying into the narrative that the poor old MTA fans were in mortal danger coming to Birmingham.

[brontebilly]

I fear this match will end up being banned or moved on or before it gets to match day.

I would wager that there is a 0% chance that this happens.

Must be a fairly high % of a serious ruckus between the EDL types led by their Musk funded pied piper (pro genocide/Israel) and local Muslim/pro Palestine community?

I wouldnt underestimate the ability of Robinson, Musk and their ilk to rustle enough local scumbags to kick off on the night. There's been riots in Dublin at an international protection center for the last two nights after an alleged assault by a resident there on a child. This is only a few months after a serious riot in the city centre after a similar assault that ended with looting of shops and burning out trams. 

[Dave]

I fear this match will end up being banned or moved on or before it gets to match day.

I would wager that there is a 0% chance that this happens.

Must be a fairly high % of a serious ruckus between the EDL types led by their Musk funded pied piper (pro genocide/Israel) and local Muslim/pro Palestine community?

I wouldnt underestimate the ability of Robinson, Musk and their ilk to rustle enough local scumbags to kick off on the night. There's been riots in Dublin at an international protection center for the last two nights after an alleged assault by a resident there on a child. This is only a few months after a serious riot in the city centre after a similar assault that ended with looting of shops and burning out trams. 

I agree, there's a good chance of all that happening.

But that's not going to see the game cancelled or moved during the next two weeks.

[AV82EC]

I fear this match will end up being banned or moved on or before it gets to match day.

I would wager that there is a 0% chance that this happens.

Must be a fairly high % of a serious ruckus between the EDL types led by their Musk funded pied piper (pro genocide/Israel) and local Muslim/pro Palestine community?

I wouldnt underestimate the ability of Robinson, Musk and their ilk to rustle enough local scumbags to kick off on the night. There's been riots in Dublin at an international protection center for the last two nights after an alleged assault by a resident there on a child. This is only a few months after a serious riot in the city centre after a similar assault that ended with looting of shops and burning out trams.

5/10.

[Abbeyfealeavfc]

I'm boycotting this fixture and will not be attending VP or engaging in any of my usual match day routines. I'll also be boycotting media coverage of the fixture.
This has been handled poorly by the footballing authorities in the first instance and more recently by our so-called politicians.

[Gareth]

I'm boycotting this fixture and will not be attending VP or engaging in any of my usual match day routines. I'll also be boycotting media coverage of the fixture.
This has been handled poorly by the footballing authorities in the first instance and more recently by our so-called politicians.

I do agree it has been handled awfully by most organisations/individuals (who should know better) BUT I have seen nothing done incorrectly by Villa….& on that basis as it’s Villa I support I will be there.

[paul_e]

Match won't be cancelled but I doubt that protest will be allowed at that location

[AV82EC]

Match won't be cancelled but I doubt that protest will be allowed at that location

Shove any protestor who turns up into Aston Hall park and they can shout to their hearts content. As you say there is no way on earth Brum plod will allow any gathering of protestors anywhere near the ground.

[PeterWithesShin]

I wonder if they're thinking of putting a zone around VP and to go past a certain point you need a match ticket. Police would need big numbers but apart from the park it would be relatively easy. And they should have the knowledge to do the park.

[Somniloquism]

The pro Palestine lot would've been the match throwers.   
The police would've handled a few hundred MTA fans as they did the Warsaw fans but they would struggled policing the pro Palestine lot (which could be any of 1000s who are around the ground on the night , including match go''ers)

Like you say MTA fans & their previous behaviour was a perfect excuse.

You mean the previous behaviour of beating up a Palestinian they bumped into in Greece and leaving them lying unconcious or deliberately going around a muslim area shouting anti-muslim things and beating up a Muslim taxi driver, the actions which then led to the Muslims going out in gangs to target Jews. (The latter getting exceedingly large coverage compared to the former and with apparently MTA thugs still running around attacking people and that being blamed on the other side in news reports.)

[Percy McCarthy]

The pro Palestine lot would've been the match throwers.   
The police would've handled a few hundred MTA fans as they did the Warsaw fans but they would struggled policing the pro Palestine lot (which could be any of 1000s who are around the ground on the night , including match go''ers)

Like you say MTA fans & their previous behaviour was a perfect excuse.

You mean the previous behaviour of beating up a Palestinian they bumped into in Greece and leaving them lying unconcious or deliberately going around a muslim area shouting anti-muslim things and beating up a Muslim taxi driver, the actions which then led to the Muslims going out in gangs to target Jews. (The latter getting exceedingly large coverage compared to the former and with apparently MTA thugs still running around attacking people and that being blamed on the other side in news reports.)

You’re wasting your time Som. These people are down the rabbit hole, never to emerge back to reality I fear.

[markeeeebeeee2005]

MTA aren’t just a football club with a few hooligan fans. Many of their fans proudly represent an apartheid state that’s been committing genocide with arms and political cover from UK and US politicians, breaking both national and international law and making loads of money for the arms industry and the click merchants. The evil that was committed against Jewish people, particularly during the 2nd world war was always going to have future repercussions, that level of suffering doesn’t just evaporate. But what is being done to the Palestinians will not heal that.

Talking about hooligans and fixtures is a distraction. It’s the same energy as Tommy’s boot boys and Keir’s antisemitism slurs against those who protest complicity in genocide. It’s noise that purposefully pulls focus from the real issues.

MTA shouldn’t be in the competition. The double standards in treatments of Russian sports teams, who as bad they are not committing genocide, and teams from Israel, who are, is stark. All because the Israeli actions are licensed by Western complicity.

Bigger picture. This isn’t about football. It’s about international solidarity with the oppressed whether Muslim, Jew, Trekkies or something else.

Sh*t that Villa are wrapped up in it, but as we are, I think it’s right that people shown respect when they show solidarity with a decimated Palestinian population and all others who’ve suffered oppression and genocide over the years, even if you disagree.

[Bent Neilsens Screamer]

I’m not sure why the pro Palastine protest organisers have urged attendees to mask up for their own safety.