The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll

[andyh]

I saw this one live, I couldn’t believe what I was seeing and hearing.

https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1979212614765817987?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

Fucking hell they are literally showing footage of Maccabi fans kicking a man unconscious alongside her bullshit

[Rigadon]

That is almost chilling.  Even if the scenes have been put alongside after it was broadcast to juxtapose what was being said.  It’s well known that they have fans who have caused violent disorder at home and away.  Literally lying about it because it suits a narrative.  This approach to ‘news’ isn’t niche either.  It’s widespread. 

[Somniloquism]

I saw this one live, I couldn’t believe what I was seeing and hearing.

https://x.com/saulstaniforth/status/1979212614765817987?s=46&t=GdM6cpVxe5IloByNCRheWA

Fucking hell they are literally showing footage of Maccabi fans kicking a man unconscious alongside her bullshit

The video is edited by the twitter poster, not shown on Sky as noted by the bottom ticker not going across the full screen.

Being as the Amsterdam Police shared info with WMP about what happened, why didn't that David whatinname someone linked here mention this in his own report he supposedly sent to the SAG which was being used as a "see nothing happened in Amsterdam" argument.

[cdbearsfan]

What a revolting piece of shit Nandy is.

[pauliewalnuts]

Depressing as fuck to see a Labour government yet again bending over backwards to be on the wrong side of the argument.

Also, shout out to the lack of knowledge amongst politicians of all parties who seem not to ever have heard that away fans being banned from fixtures in Europe is actually quite a common thing and not something invented in Birmingham last week.

There really is no hope for this country whilst even the guys who are - in my view at least - supposed to be 'the good guys' turn out to be no better than the last bunch of incompetent chumps*, and all the while in the background we have lurking a British Trumpism fantasist.

What a horrendous fucking mess.


* Mitchell and Webb gif here

[paul_e]

What a revolting piece of shit Nandy is.

I wouldn't go that far but I do find it weird that she, like many others, has made no attempt to recognise the multiple cases of hooliganism by hteir fans over the last couple of years or mention that some of their chnts and songs are highly problematic. I just don't get why it's so difficult for people to see that there's enough reasons for this ban without needing to bring Anti-semitism, Israel or jews into the conversation and by doing so you, to a degree, remove the consequences of their actions, which sets a really poor precedent if you then try to act tough on anti-social behaviour by other fans.

[Sexual Ealing]

What a revolting piece of shit Nandy is.

I wouldn't go that far but I do find it weird that she, like many others, has made no attempt to recognise the multiple cases of hooliganism by hteir fans over the last couple of years or mention that some of their chnts and songs are highly problematic. I just don't get why it's so difficult for people to see that there's enough reasons for this ban without needing to bring Anti-semitism, Israel or jews into the conversation and by doing so you, to a degree, remove the consequences of their actions, which sets a really poor precedent if you then try to act tough on anti-social behaviour by other fans.

Towns Nandy isn't especially hateful, but she is absolutely fucking rubbish.

[brontebilly]

Depressing as fuck to see a Labour government yet again bending over backwards to be on the wrong side of the argument.

Also, shout out to the lack of knowledge amongst politicians of all parties who seem not to ever have heard that away fans being banned from fixtures in Europe is actually quite a common thing and not something invented in Birmingham last week.

There really is no hope for this country whilst even the guys who are - in my view at least - supposed to be 'the good guys' turn out to be no better than the last bunch of incompetent chumps*, and all the while in the background we have lurking a British Trumpism fantasist.

What a horrendous fucking mess.


* Mitchell and Webb gif here

Good post mate. That sky clip is straight from the Fox News playbook.

[PeterWithesShin]

One of my favourite takes posted on Twitter

If it was for example  Dutch supporters who had caused a bit of violence previously do you think they would be banned 🤷‍♂️

[PeterWithesShin]

Villa warn fans against political messaging

Aston Villa's warning is proof that even with Maccabi declining any tickets, the stakes remain high before one of the most highly politicised matches English football will have seen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce86vy4dvdmo

[PeterWithesShin]

An article from a month ago

Fans facing 'extremely worrying' safety conditions at Uefa matches

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c203z1d0yjwo

[garyellis]

Villa warn fans against political messaging

Aston Villa's warning is proof that even with Maccabi declining any tickets, the stakes remain high before one of the most highly politicised matches English football will have seen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce86vy4dvdmo

Whats this crap about Birmingham hosting future events?

[Bobby Boy]

The silence of the agitator in chief - Starmer - is telling.

Starmer is all in with the any-criticism-of-Israel-is-anti-Semitic narrative. Any evidence or information that suggests that this might not necessarily be the case is ignored or mitigated or qualified.

I find the reality that people, politicians, whoever can be so wedded to one particular view or ideology that they get beyond a point where objectivity is possible, horribly chilling.

It is not only true of Starmer of course and is much wider than this issue. However surely some part of a person has to be honest enough to acknowledge that their views may not always be right or accurate?

Folk who are unbending or unwielding to other perspectives scare the shit out of me.

[itbrvilla]

Villa warn fans against political messaging

Aston Villa's warning is proof that even with Maccabi declining any tickets, the stakes remain high before one of the most highly politicised matches English football will have seen.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/ce86vy4dvdmo

Whats this crap about Birmingham hosting future events?

Bullshit made up statement for rage-bait.

[andyh]

An article from a month ago

Fans facing 'extremely worrying' safety conditions at Uefa matches

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c203z1d0yjwo

It’s utterly ridiculous that the BBC posted an article about away fans being banned a few weeks ago, and yet their reporting on our game is like it’s the first time a ban has even happened.