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Offline PeterWithe

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #825 on: Today at 08:21:29 AM »
Utterly dispiriting that, through no action of ours whatsover, the trenches of the Culture Wars advance to run through the VP pitch.

Get to fuck, the lot of them.

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That Ronay column was genuinely bizarre.
They mostly are, I find.

Liew nails it, however, as he frequently seems to do (he's the Preston pie man someone was referring to).

Just permit myself one short citation:

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Choosing to stand with the far-right foreign football hooligan against the local police force: this, apparently, is what British patriotism looks like in 2025. Truly, we are through the looking-glass here.

Yup, as right as Ronay is wrong.

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #827 on: Today at 08:55:19 AM »
^^Yep, good piece (as usual).

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #828 on: Today at 08:56:23 AM »
Yeah Liew is on it there, and unless I'm mistaken there are a couple of veiled digs towards the end there too, which I appreciate.

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #829 on: Today at 09:19:13 AM »
Yep, it goes to show it's not that hard to understand for anyone who isn't just reading the headlines.

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #830 on: Today at 09:51:33 AM »
Magnificent piece by Liew today in 'The Guardian'. Reinforces what a bunch of absolute knee-jerk gobshites much of our leading politicians are.

Maybe, at some point, before shouting their mouths of they might want to reflect a little on what it is that they are about to shout about. I guess, that the modern political class doesn't do reflection or research or balance though....

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #831 on: Today at 10:04:41 AM »
Magnificent piece by Liew today in 'The Guardian'. Reinforces what a bunch of absolute knee-jerk gobshites much of our leading politicians are.

Maybe, at some point, before shouting their mouths of they might want to reflect a little on what it is that they are about to shout about. I guess, that the modern political class doesn't do reflection or research or balance though....

The 24 hr News cycle must be fed. And the wheel turns again…..

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #832 on: Today at 10:22:10 AM »
Today Programme on Radio 4 had a piece on this earlier, about 2hrs 10mins in. Pissed me off.

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« Reply #833 on: Today at 10:24:42 AM »
This is what we are in 2025, reactionary nonsense because we have to pander to a bunch of twats in Westminster who can get to PMQ's collectively in a taxi.

Online Monty

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #834 on: Today at 10:25:30 AM »
Today Programme on Radio 4 had a piece on this earlier, about 2hrs 10mins in. Pissed me off.

'why Da Vile hate da jooz' by B. L. Unose?

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« Reply #835 on: Today at 11:15:29 AM »
I will be fair to the noses on this occasion - a lot of them were taking our side on it and some even offered to come to the game to confront them!

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #836 on: Today at 11:25:21 AM »
Today Programme on Radio 4 had a piece on this earlier, about 2hrs 10mins in. Pissed me off.
Just listened to it (here if you're interested).

Single-handedly manages to miss the point spectacularly - the safety of the Maccabi fans isn't the only concern (or IMO even the primary concern, given their reputation).  It completely ignores the safety of the local community, of the matchday staff, of the very real possibilty of EDL goons turning up.  And it very much focusses on the decision being made by local politicians, rather than the serious concerns that WMP have had over policing the event.

I will be fair to the noses on this occasion - a lot of them were taking our side on it and some even offered to come to the game to confront them!
Absolutely.  Fair play to the noses on that one.

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« Reply #837 on: Today at 11:59:02 AM »
It looks like MTA are the grown ups saying they will refuse tickets for safety reasons.

They need to be given a lot of credit for that.

Let's be honest nobody in England was going to (be able to) make a better decision. Regardless of what that decision ended up as.
Spot on!

The people who know the fans and care about the fans have made the most sensible decision.
Starmer, Badenoch etc made the situation ten times worse than it was, and totally missed the wider, overall issues...and they're also complete twats.

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #838 on: Today at 12:03:06 PM »
This is the full Maccabi statement

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We acknowledge the efforts of the UK government and police to ensure both sets of fans can attend the match safely, and are grateful for the messages of support from across the footballing community and society at large.

We as a Club believe that football should be about bringing people together not driving them apart and no one should feel unsafe for simply wanting to come and support their team nor feel any hesitation about being accompanied by family and friends.

We have a strong track record in seeking to bring people together. We have been instrumental in bringing forward footballing talent from around the world irrespective of race or creed. Our first team squad consists of Muslims, Christian and Jewish players and our fan base also crosses the ethnic and religious divide. We have also been working tirelessly to stamp out racism within the more extreme elements of our fan base. Unfortunately, those issues are not restricted to Israeli football, and they are problems the sport has been grappling worldwide including in the UK.

It is clear, that various entrenched groups seek to malign the Maccabi Tel Aviv fan base, most of whom have no truck with racism or hooliganism of any kind, and are exploiting isolated incidents for their own social and political ends. The latest example is by people who have rushed to attribute to our fans the decision of the Tel Aviv police to cancel our derby match yesterday. It was not. It is easier to believe than to enquire especially when it suites an agenda. Our fans regularly travel all over Europe without incident and to suggest that the reason our fans cannot be allowed to travel is due to their behavior is an attempt to distort reality and to excuse the real underlying reasons for the decision to ban our fans. Our fans, the Jewish community know all too well this tactic and all are too familiar with where it can lead.

We are also concerned about the intervention of divisive figures who do not represent the values of our Club. We condemn all abhorrent views that have no place in football.

As a result of the hate-filled falsehoods, a toxic atmosphere has been created which makes the safety of our fans wishing to attend very much in doubt. Inflammatory rhetoric, trafficking in half-truths is never healthy, but in this particular case the remarks being generated are of the most concerning variety. Not for Maccabi Tel Aviv or football, but for the sake of society and its underlying values, maybe the agendas involved here should be looked at more closely.

The wellbeing and safety of our fans is paramount and from hard lessons learned, we have taken the decision to decline any allocation offered on behalf of away fans and our decision should be understood in that context.

We hope that circumstances will change and look forward to being able to play in Birmingham in a sporting environment in the near future.

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Re: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll
« Reply #839 on: Today at 12:05:29 PM »
Is there not still a risk the EDL goons show up anyway?

 


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