The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll

[Louzie0]

I agree with SE’s assessment re the majority of MTA fans expected being British.
And with the comment that this could well include a number of new fans.

These are two of the issues the government is helping the police with, according to Ms Nandy.


In all this, Ayoub Khan was a voice of reason and he has spoken again to remind MPs not to post inflammatory statements on SM about other MPs.

[Rigadon]

I’ve been going for fifty-odd years, and worked there selling the fanzine for twenty-odd. Never had so much as crossed word with the local population, despite sometimes not being an ideal visitor myself. It makes me very angry that people from the party that was once the Parliamentary representative of the working class are bending over backwards to ensure the attendance of scumbags who will refuse to be searched by our non-white stewards. This might be a minor thing to some but it’s a sad microcosm of the situation. Hopefully they’ll all be given the night off. Paid.

It's all so, so depressing.  Political point scoring, having a palpably negative impact on people's lives.  People who, until wound up for political gain, generally coexist peacefully. 

[Ads]

I find it odd calling a secterian MP, who is partly responsible for whipping this up, a voice of reason.

There was plenty of hammered Catholic ethnic Croats at Villa Park the other year who had a choice thing to say about their Muslim neighbours when we were drinking in their bars (and I have the photos of the bullet holes in the Islamic Centre to prove it from the ither side of the river) who didn't create such angst, but then again we had a normal Labour MP in situ not this crank.

Its a shitshow no doubt about it.

[TopDeck113]

With teams in general. If they had a full away allocation there would almost certainly be some British based fans in the away end. Same as at plenty European games over here. And as happens in other countries as well.

Lots of European teams have golbal followings, yes, and have plenty of British-based fans for multiple reasons. I don't think Maccabi Tel Aviv are one of those teams.

My initial reaction was that I've never met a UK-based MTA supporter, but then I remembered a conversation on the train with a couple of guys from London of Turkish heritage the evening we played Trabzonspor.  They were Arsenal fans but were supporting their Turkish team.  I wouldn't be surprised if it's similar for many clubs from a country with a wide diaspora.

[Sexual Ealing]

There are very few diaspora Israelis, it's more of a destination.

[PeterWithesShin]

Some Jewish people here will support them, others will just want to see an Israeli side live. They're probably the biggest club in Israel and with approx 300,000 Jewish people living in the UK some would have wanted to be at VP. Hopefully the ban remains and it's all irrelevant.

[Sexual Ealing]

^^No argument there. But they would be nowhere near the majority, which was what I said was bollocks.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

I went to games at Millwall in the 60s and 70s. I was at the abandoned Rangers game at VP, the semi final in Anderlecht, numerous games at Dirty Leeds & Man U back in the day when you hid your scarf sneaked out the away end and didn't let people hear your accent. Luckily I've always kept clear of trouble, although it was a close thing at that WestHam FAC Q/F.
I've got a ticket, of course I'm going.
I didn't get my 11 year old granddaughter a ticket as it's school next day. Don't think I would have if it had been half term week either, but now with a bad situation having been made worse I wouldn't have let her within miles of VP or the city centre that day.

[RamboandBruno]

Im probably not going. To be honest as Im a bit more skint this year than previously, I’d already said to my lad we’d have to pick and choose our euro home games, me buying my normal seats for this came before pay day, so decided to leave it. If I have the chance of some away tickets, he’d rather do a couple of these, so thats where limited funds will go.
Saying all of that, Starmer and the other numpties from all parties have done my nut in with this, complete and utter political posturing that has every chance of helping to blow this up more than it needed.
If I had bought tickets for my normal seats last week, Id be a bit wary of subjecting my 15 year to potentially whats in store, especially if Lexley-Yannon and all those Neanderthals turn up. Could be pretty toxic. 

[Louzie0]

Understand your point Ads., however his contributions in the House today were reasonable, as were Jeremy Corbyn’s. They know how to behave in there. Unfortunately, several other people didn’t.

I have no doubt that the govt are ‘helping’ WMP to identify anybody who went from the UK to Amsterdam or Athens and got involved in the violence there; any bad actors who decide to join MTA for the day from TR’s lot and anyone like the excitable, entitled Oxford idiot who was chanting ‘Kill the Zios’ in London, the other day.  We don’t want anyone like that inside or outside VP!

[DB]

I am going but my 10yr old lad, not sure. He has a ticket, but if away fans are allowed then I won’t be taking him.

[PeterWithesShin]

I reckon it will either pass off peacefully or be a total shit show, no inbetween.

[Percy McCarthy]

Understand your point Ads., however his contributions in the House today were reasonable, as were Jeremy Corbyn’s. They know how to behave in there. Unfortunately, several other people didn’t.

I have no doubt that the govt are ‘helping’ WMP to identify anybody who went from the UK to Amsterdam or Athens and got involved in the violence there; any bad actors who decide to join MTA for the day from TR’s lot and anyone like the excitable, entitled Oxford idiot who was chanting ‘Kill the Zios’ in London, the other day.  We don’t want anyone like that inside or outside VP!

All should be welcome according to fuckwitted or compromised MPs and racist ****** like Tommy Thumb.

[Drummond]

The whole thing has been made into something it wasn't, by the very people who should be trying to calm the situation.

[Ads]

Understand your point Ads., however his contributions in the House today were reasonable, as were Jeremy Corbyn’s. They know how to behave in there. Unfortunately, several other people didn’t.

I have no doubt that the govt are ‘helping’ WMP to identify anybody who went from the UK to Amsterdam or Athens and got involved in the violence there; any bad actors who decide to join MTA for the day from TR’s lot and anyone like the excitable, entitled Oxford idiot who was chanting ‘Kill the Zios’ in London, the other day.  We don’t want anyone like that inside or outside VP!

No quite rightly we don't, they can all get to fuck quite frankly. Its really disappointing to have to read people don't fancy taking their kids or themselves. This is our thing, on our patch doing what we've always done and nobody should interfere with that. I've never known a noise like it for one of our games and its not like any of ours are posing a risk either; it isn't Small Heath and their 20+ coaches.