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Author Topic: The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll  (Read 34820 times)

Offline Percy McCarthy

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I’ll go if they’re banned, but I won’t be taking my kids even if they are. Tiny Tommy and his racist thugs will probably be there, and maybe some stray racist thugs from Israel. My kids are not white so very sadly Villa Park will be a dangerous place for them and I’m a responsible parent.

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Re: Meccabi Tel Aviv - are you still going to the game?
« Reply #736 on: Today at 06:01:35 PM »
Yes I’m definately going. Either the away fan ban will stand or they’ll be ridiculous numbers of police and pre/post match fan segregation. All the hooliganism of the 70’s and 80’s didn't stop me and this won’t.

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Lisa Nandy emphasised that the original decision was to ban all MTA fans, including what she described as the majority who would be British fans of the team, as distinct from the thugs ( not her word)  exported from Tel Aviv, who were once again involved in rioting at their own match which was abandoned, last night. This was mentioned in the debate, as was their dreadful record.

Ian Duncan Smith mentioned that MTA managed to attend a game in Istanbul with no trouble. Another MP (missed his name) pointed out that the match was banned in Turkey, was actually played in Hungary and behind closed doors, hence no trouble!

It’s clear that the government wants all fans to be able to attend. She stated their determination to support the WM police ( fending off a call for the CS’s resignation by Reform, helpful as always) in making it possible for the game to go ahead with both sets of fans in attendance.

There were some pertinent questions and comments which recognised that identifying British Jewish fans of MTA and other clubs with being responsible for the actions of what Zarah Sultana called the apartheid Israeli government in Gaza was antisemitic and that the residents of Aston and the wider community of Birmingham had a right to feel safe. This would not be likely with a bunch of ‘fans’ marching along, singing about killing Palestinian children, as Ms Nandy agreed.

However, several MPs made clear interventions about the safety of Muslim local residents and then sat back and chatted or yelled during her answer. This behaviour was no help at all, my opinion, and undermined their position, which was strong to begin with. It’s already a charged issue and the idea is to make it safe for everyone, not just specific groups of fans.

Quite what this means on the day, especially the arrangements for meeting and travelling to VP for the Israeli contingent specifically, is not yet clear but it seems there is an absolute determination to make the match open to all and to make it work for everyone, including the residents of Aston.

Our club came off OK despite a Tory London creep who attempted to argue that Chelsea does these things better and that they’d have no problem in the same situation.
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Lisa Nandy emphasised that the original decision was to ban all MTA fans, including what she described as the majority who would be British fans of the team, as distinct from the thugs ( not her word)  exported from Tel Aviv, who were once again involved in rioting at their own match which was abandoned, last night. This was mentioned in the debate, as was their dreadful record.




I'm happy to be corrected, but that sounds like total bollocks to me.

Offline Percy McCarthy

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Lisa Nandy emphasised that the original decision was to ban all MTA fans, including what she described as the majority who would be British fans of the team, as distinct from the thugs ( not her word)  exported from Tel Aviv, who were once again involved in rioting at their own match which was abandoned, last night. This was mentioned in the debate, as was their dreadful record.




I'm happy to be corrected, but that sounds like total bollocks to me.

Me too. I suppose they might be though, depending on how many racist ghouls Tiny Tommy Two-Names can dig up.

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It's quite a common thing.

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Offline PeterWithesShin

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What you called total bollocks. It happens quite a bit.

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No category for me. Intend to get a ticket if the ban is upheld. Won’t if it’s not. Not taking the kids (mixed-race) whatever happens because of the probability of significant numbers of hateful violent racists in attendance. Feels like a responsible parenting thing.

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I am thinking if there is a ban there will be people turning up to protest anyway.  There is just a horrible feeling around this game for me .  i am really not sure i want to take my lad

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I’ve been going for fifty-odd years, and worked there selling the fanzine for twenty-odd. Never had so much as crossed word with the local population, despite sometimes not being an ideal visitor myself. It makes me very angry that people from the party that was once the Parliamentary representative of the working class are bending over backwards to ensure the attendance of scumbags who will refuse to be searched by our non-white stewards. This might be a minor thing to some but it’s a sad microcosm of the situation. Hopefully they’ll all be given the night off. Paid.
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Re: Meccabi Tel Aviv - are you still going to the game?
« Reply #746 on: Today at 06:32:54 PM »
I imagine those that are likely to look for trouble will be targeting the MTA accommodation and travel routes if there are no visiting fans to get at.

Yeah, there was an incident earlier this year where a couple of female 'Pro-Palestine' protesters stalked an Israeli businessman who was in Dublin for a conference. They followed him to a hotel, then verbally abused and spat at him whilst he was dining.

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What you called total bollocks. It happens quite a bit.

With Israeli football teams in England? No it doesn't.

Offline PeterWithesShin

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With teams in general. If they had a full away allocation there would almost certainly be some British based fans in the away end. Same as at plenty European games over here. And as happens in other countries as well.

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With teams in general. If they had a full away allocation there would almost certainly be some British based fans in the away end. Same as at plenty European games over here. And as happens in other countries as well.

Lots of European teams have golbal followings, yes, and have plenty of British-based fans for multiple reasons. I don't think Maccabi Tel Aviv are one of those teams.

 


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