The combined Maccabi thread - now with are you going? poll

[PaulWinch again]

This is just very typical of the grim societal/political climate currently - opportunistic bandwagon jumping has created a much bigger, and worst, issue than the original issue. The original issue would also have been addressed had it not been for political influence.

[Exeter 77]

I see that idiot failed politician Gove has fanned the flames.

[algy]

From WMP perspective it is a huge challenge in trying to police both the game and the inevitable demonstrations from both sides of the divide. If politicians get their way and force the game to be played then they have a responsibility to do everything it takes to ensure the safety of everyone involved - fans, businesses, local residents and police - and any failures should be attributed accordingly.

From my point of view I’m expecting a really dispiriting evening when I should be looking forward to an exciting game of football.

Just trawling through this thread now, but this absolutely is my thought. Safety comes first, and if WMP don’t feel they can safely handle the situation they are right in saying measures should be in place.

If anyone in Westminster or elsewhere thinks it should go ahead - fine no problem. You supply the police resources, supply the extra stewards, supply the extra medical staff, supply the extra infrastructure stuff (coaches for the MTA fans, fencing to segregate them, etc). You’re the ones asking for it, so you be the ones to make it safe for the local residents, local businesses, emergency services, people in the city centre etc etc.

[astonvilla82]

From WMP perspective it is a huge challenge in trying to police both the game and the inevitable demonstrations from both sides of the divide. If politicians get their way and force the game to be played then they have a responsibility to do everything it takes to ensure the safety of everyone involved - fans, businesses, local residents and police - and any failures should be attributed accordingly.

From my point of view I’m expecting a really dispiriting evening when I should be looking forward to an exciting game of football.

Just trawling through this thread now, but this absolutely is my thought. Safety comes first, and if WMP don’t feel they can safely handle the situation they are right in saying measures should be in place.

If anyone in Westminster or elsewhere thinks it should go ahead - fine no problem. You supply the police resources, supply the extra stewards, supply the extra medical staff, supply the extra infrastructure stuff (coaches for the MTA fans, fencing to segregate them, etc). You’re the ones asking for it, so you be the ones to make it safe for the local residents, local businesses, emergency services, people in the city centre etc etc.

Be nice to see if it would happen in London in the future

[luke95]

So now we've got to a point where far right twats and pro Palestine twats will be turning up on Nov 6th to kick off. Fucking ridiculous.

That was always going to happen anyway.
Ahkmed Yakoob is another who has jumped all over it.

[ChicagoLion]

So now we've got to a point where far right twats and pro Palestine twats will be turning up on Nov 6th to kick off. Fucking ridiculous.

That was always going to happen anyway.
Ahkmed Yakoob is another who has jumped all over it.

But now the profile has been raised exponentially and the attendant problems also.

[algy]

I said earlier, I’m not sure who hates who anymore.
Since when did far right racists side with ‘the Jews’ ( that’s not meant to be insulting, it’s to make the point).

Proper, good old fashioned racists like the NF or BNP hated Jews as much as they did p@**’s and N@@@@@‘s.

Now they are on the same side ??

It’s all very confusing

Indeed. I don’t ask for much - just that racists and neo-nazi types have a well thought out, logical, and above all consistent viewpoint on things.

[PeterWithesShin]

Even without away fans it's most likely going to be a nightmare for the police. And despite it having fuck all to do with us our name will be dragged through the mud if/when it kicks off.

[Holte132]

Well, well, well! Where's all the outcry about this?

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/football/soccer-frankfurt-say-uefa-rejected-request-to-move-napoli-game-after-fan-ban/ar-AA1OFKaH?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=68f35bbdc9e54a7ca141d107b4c48b06&ei=47

[PeterWithesShin]

Despite the debate it triggers, the decision to stop Maccabi supporters from attending the football match in Birmingham isn’t the first time away fans have faced restrictions while travelling to games in Europe this season.

Regional police forces banning away fans at some matches - especially in France and Italy - has become more common in recent years.

Fans of Dutch club Ajax were prevented from attending their Uefa Champions League match against Marseille on 30 September. Ajax said the Marseille authorities had told them the ban was due to "public safety and security".

Napoli’s home game with Eintracht Frankfurt in the same competition, scheduled for 4 November, will also not have away fans, with the Naples police justifying the ban by citing "the high risks to public order and safety".

It's hardly the first time local authorities have banned away fans. But it doesn't matter as the match itself isn't the agenda for either side.

[algy]

If their fans are allowed to come, we should have a 2 minute silence before the game for *all* victims of genocide. That’ll at least give them ann emotional battle to consider!

Or maybe even if they don’t come - they’ll almost certainly be some bellends about regardless.

[KevinGage]

I look forward to Unai or maybe Austin McPhee holding court and giving their expert opinion on the upcoming budget.

They'll know as much as about that as servile politicians know about policing decisions for fixtures of this nature.

[Sexual Ealing]

If they come, perhaps there could be a ticketing mishap and they'll find their seats occupied.

[eye digress]

If they come, perhaps there could be a ticketing mishap and they'll find their seats occupied.

Let’s keep politics out of this.

[Olneythelonely]

If they come, perhaps there could be a ticketing mishap and they'll find their seats occupied.

Let’s keep politics out of this.

I assume I’m missing the joke here.