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Author Topic: Removing Israeli teams from UEFA competitions/Boycotting the Maccabi TA game  (Read 18245 times)

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I can just imagine the shitstorm if an Arab-owned club in a Muslim area (which is what we'd be portrayed as) pulled out of a match against Israelis.

I know you weren't making this point, but it's worth knowing (I only found it out recently) that our Arab owner is from a Christian background. Not that it should or does make a difference, just that there is no* angle here in that context.

I assumed Dave knew this which is why he added (which is what we'd be portrayed as). The fact that the Sawiris have been so successful in Egypt, despite being Coptic Christians, is pretty impressive.

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I wish Liverpool or Arsenal had drew them first and then we'd have seen a completely different narrative from all sides.   

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This little bundle of love and inclusivity has spoken. There's also a video but bollocks to watching it

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Katie Hopkins @KTHopkins

Things are speeding up fast in the U.K.

I have long known about @WMPolice …

The U.K. has banned Jews from attending football  … what next? Public transport?

Oh can't she crawl back under the stone?

KH is a perfect example of how, eventually, if you stop paying too much attention to the far right, they just go away again. But now all the appeasement by Starmer of the right, and taking the argument onto their ground (and oh so predictably having his arse whipped on said ground) has given her oxygen here

If you don’t want to give her the oxygen/time of day/clicks I’d suggest ignoring her.

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I can just imagine the shitstorm if an Arab-owned club in a Muslim area (which is what we'd be portrayed as) pulled out of a match against Israelis.

I know you weren't making this point, but it's worth knowing (I only found it out recently) that our Arab owner is from a Christian background. Not that it should or does make a difference, just that there is no* angle here in that context.

I assumed Dave knew this which is why he added (which is what we'd be portrayed as). The fact that the Sawiris have been so successful in Egypt, despite being Coptic Christians, is pretty impressive.

I didn't think Dave didn't know, I was addressing it to the handful of people even less well-informed than I am.

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We play teams that are owned by utter scum in the league. And in Europe. Play the game with no away fans, slap them 4-0, gloat, and then crack on.

I am with you except let their fans in and thrash them.

Si, Señor Aftab.

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I'm sympathetic to the views but it isn't the club making the decision, and the club risks being made to appear twats either way if they are seen to be involved in influencing the decision.

Would be better off pressuring local and national politicians.
That's my view also.

As a cultural phenomenon that I strongly identify with, it is important to me that Aston Villa always take the moral high ground, and I am proud that Villa players did not give the Nazi salute in the 1930s, whereas England players did. However, whilst I'm supportive of the idea that Israel should receive the same treatment from FIFA/ UEFA as Russia, I'm not sure that it is Aston Villa's responsibility to take a stand in this instance. So I don't believe that it is a transgression to play this game, like for example it was for England's rebel tour of South Africa to go ahead during Apartheid. Maccabi Tel Aviv are a club not a national team, and it would be impossible for their fans to have one single political view.

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I didn't think Dave didn't know, I was addressing it to the handful of people even less well-informed than I am.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx204j7x4pqt?post=asset%3A0750b174-d46d-4650-bd95-b58f3c6f9090#post

Your Party not asked their opinion.  I guess we aren't making enough noise yet for the gnat's attention span press to ask

Labour and the tories, predictable

Lib Dems, deeply disappointing

Farage hilarious

Greens...getting it right again...

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I'm sympathetic to the views but it isn't the club making the decision, and the club risks being made to appear twats either way if they are seen to be involved in influencing the decision.

Would be better off pressuring local and national politicians.
That's my view also.

As a cultural phenomenon that I strongly identify with, it is important to me that Aston Villa always take the moral high ground, and I am proud that Villa players did not give the Nazi salute in the 1930s, whereas England players did. However, whilst I'm supportive of the idea that Israel should receive the same treatment from FIFA/ UEFA as Russia, I'm not sure that it is Aston Villa's responsibility to take a stand in this instance. So I don't believe that it is a transgression to play this game, like for example it was for England's rebel tour of South Africa to go ahead during Apartheid. Maccabi Tel Aviv are a club not a national team, and it would be impossible for their fans to have one single political view.

The loud ones all seem to think pretty much the same

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We play teams that are owned by utter scum in the league. And in Europe. Play the game with no away fans, slap them 4-0, gloat, and then crack on.
I am with you except let their fans in and thrash them.

Isn't thrashing their fans in our ground the reason why SAG objected to them coming here.

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Greens...getting it right again...


You say getting it right again..  The Green representative who provided the quote in your link is the same person who dismissed October 7th as people having 'a right to fight back'.

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The Villa fans we've spoken to outside the stadium today all agree - safety and security for local fans and their families is the most important thing, and the decision to ban travelling fans is the right one.

"We have enough trouble when Walsall play," season ticket holder Lee Goodman, 51, tells me. "I’m sure it’s the correct decision, it’s just a shame for the genuine fans."

Walsall Massif the cream of the midlands hooligans then?

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Them missing out on a visit to Villa Park is a lovely punishment.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx204j7x4pqt?post=asset%3A0750b174-d46d-4650-bd95-b58f3c6f9090#post

Greens...getting it right again...


You say getting it right again..  The Green representative who provided the quote in your link is the same person who dismissed October 7th as people having 'a right to fight back'.

Polanski must have been too busy trying to grow some tits to comment.

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