Removing Israeli teams from UEFA competitions/Boycotting the Maccabi TA game

[London Villan]

All this publicity has just amplified the nonsense that will no doubt follow the original decision and likely u-turn.

I hope no Villa fan gets hurt in all, the now, inevitable mayhem.

[PeterWithesShin]

Over turning it would be the dumbest thing they could do. Far dumber than allowing Maccabi fans in the first place.

[PeterWithesShin]

UEFA have banned violent fans in the past, home or away. But I suspect certain criteria has to be passed for that similar to how football hooligans arrested near a ground will be recorded as football violence, but the same fans fighting away from the ground aren't normally.

Fans fighting each other away from grounds absolutely get hit with football violence charges.

[Crown Hill]

Why would UEFA have banned them? Do you think UEFA have a better understanding of the security issues in each host city and country than the authorities? UEFA don't get involved, nor should they.

They always have throughout my lifetime. Do you not remember the ban on English clubs?

[Crown Hill]

It's not just about Maccabi fans being kept safe, which is what most of the hate peddlers on social media fail to realise. But it's easier for them to say Villa are racist and Jews aren't welcome in Birmingham.

Unfortunately it’s (wrongly in my mind) brought into question whether Villa and Birmingham can host international fixtures.

[cdbearsfan]

Why would UEFA have banned them? Do you think UEFA have a better understanding of the security issues in each host city and country than the authorities? UEFA don't get involved, nor should they.

They always have throughout my lifetime. Do you not remember the ban on English clubs?

Of course. It was supported by the UK government.

[PeterWithesShin]

We literally hosted an international 6 weeks ago. Only dribbling simpletons would question it.

[cdbearsfan]

It's not just about Maccabi fans being kept safe, which is what most of the hate peddlers on social media fail to realise. But it's easier for them to say Villa are racist and Jews aren't welcome in Birmingham.

Unfortunately it’s (wrongly in my mind) brought into question whether Villa and Birmingham can host international fixtures.

Only among morons.

[London Villan]

When the head of both organisations that made the decision are both telling their respective organisations to reverse the decision, it makes all involved look very stupid.

[Crown Hill]

We literally hosted an international 6 weeks ago. Only dribbling simpletons would question it.

That’s a non sequitur given nobody questioned being able to guarantee the public safety ahead of that.

[tomd2103]

It's not just about Maccabi fans being kept safe, which is what most of the hate peddlers on social media fail to realise. But it's easier for them to say Villa are racist and Jews aren't welcome in Birmingham.

Unfortunately it’s (wrongly in my mind) brought into question whether Villa and Birmingham can host international fixtures.

The city hosted the Commonwealth games, hosts regular international cricket games  and athletics events and recently staged an international football game at Villa Park with no issues.

It has to be remembered that this is a pretty unique set of circumstances which are unlikely to be repeated (unless of course Israel are involved in any way).

[Crown Hill]

When the head of both organisations that made the decision are both telling their respective organisations to reverse the decision, it makes all involved look very stupid.

Yep it was obviously wrong and illogical. They’ll have to reverse it asap!

[Somniloquism]

UEFA have banned violent fans in the past, home or away. But I suspect certain criteria has to be passed for that similar to how football hooligans arrested near a ground will be recorded as football violence, but the same fans fighting away from the ground aren't normally.

Fans fighting each other away from grounds absolutely get hit with football violence charges.

Do they? I was led to believe that they don't count to official stats if they trouble is more then a mile from the ground and just falls under general violence.

[PeterWithesShin]

Uplands and Cardiff are a couple of Villa ones where banning orders and prison sentences were handed out.

[PeterWithesShin]

We literally hosted an international 6 weeks ago. Only dribbling simpletons would question it.

That’s a non sequitur given nobody questioned being able to guarantee the public safety ahead of that.

So we can host internationals just fine. Like all the CL games last season and the England game 6 weeks ago.