Removing Israeli teams from UEFA competitions/Boycotting the Maccabi TA game

[Demitri_C]

Because they didn't bomb Qatar before the tournament started. And because UEFA are twats.

They have made a right mess of thw whole thinbg now CD. God knows whats going to happen. They allowed them to play a game so how the hell you going to decide in the rest? Clown show

[Sexual Ealing]

Because they didn't bomb Qatar before the tournament started. And because UEFA are twats.

They have made a right mess of thw whole thinbg now CD. God knows whats going to happen. They allowed them to play a game so how the hell you going to decide in the rest? Clown show

It's as good a suggestion as any other I've heard.

[paul_e]

Because they didn't bomb Qatar before the tournament started. And because UEFA are twats.

They have made a right mess of thw whole thinbg now CD. God knows whats going to happen. They allowed them to play a game so how the hell you going to decide in the rest? Clown show

They've announced exactly how they'd do it, it's been discussed on here already (in the Europa League thread).

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Also take into account that Maccabi fans will be looking to attack Muslims, as they did in Amsterdam.

Of course, and I worry that they'll know they need far more people than will have tickets for that so we'd get a lot of extra visitors here just for the shit-stirring.

Some people are just super chill about the risk of violence to the local Muslim population and anybody else though, just want to watch a bit of footy and don’t want tofu knitting libtards ruining a night on the beers.

I mean you do come across as that stereotype given your Mrs Lovejoy "petrified" comments early. Jaysus.

If people want to fight, then those with violent intent deserve everything that is coming to them; may the kosh strike firm, the cuffs be too tight and the cell floor cold. The civilised amongst us will ignore the twats and go to the game.

Your line that you only find trouble if you go looking for it doesn’t stand up, but it’s a nice show of privilege.

Been everywhere for 35 years never had an issue. Seen it go off plenty, easily avoided ever getting involved.

[dave.woodhall]

The difference with this one is that you don't know where any potential problems might come from. The Maccabi supporters might want to meet a few pro-Palestinians, who in turn may be whipped up in the days before the match by stories about Zionists invading their territory. Then there's potential matchday protestors, who could be up town or at the ground. The local yout' having a look around and using the night as an opportunity to get a bit of their own back on the invaders who disrupt the neighbourhood every couple of weeks. Our own ne'erdowells getting involved. The possibilities are endless and unlike normally, with codes of conduct and only fighting their own, on this occasion all such bets may well be off.

[Gareth]

The difference with this one is that you don't know where any potential problems might come from. The Maccabi supporters might want to meet a few pro-Palestinians, who in turn may be whipped up in the days before the match by stories about Zionists invading their territory. Then there's potential matchday protestors, who could be up town or at the ground. The local yout' having a look around and using the night as an opportunity to get a bit of their own back on the invaders who disrupt the neighbourhood every couple of weeks. Our own ne'erdowells getting involved. The possibilities are endless and unlike normally, with codes of conduct and only fighting their own, on this occasion all such bets may well be off.

And a big percentage of fans attending the game have absolutely no clue of who is who or what is what around Israel. 

Hopefully the local youth will still be too busy letting off fireworks to bother with rabble rousing

[cdbearsfan]

The locals would be targeted by the Maccabi twats, exactly as happened in Amsterdam.

[Percy McCarthy]

The locals would be targeted by the Maccabi twats, exactly as happened in Amsterdam.

This is what I fear may happen. Said locals retaliate, liars pretend it’s anti-semitism, morons believe it, like they often do.

[Rory]

The locals would be targeted by the Maccabi twats, exactly as happened in Amsterdam.

This is what I fear may happen. Said locals retaliate, liars pretend it’s anti-semitism, morons believe it, like they often do.

Depends if the Paki Crews* mobilise.

They can act as Rapid Vienna as they want in large groups, but if I were a Jew, I wouldn't want to find myself on my own in Aston.

I think we're more likely to see a handful of wet Israelis than anything.

*Their own name at my school, not mine.

[Dante Lavelli]

I read Amsterdam city council have banned their fans, or said they are unwelcome in the city..

[andyh]

The locals would be targeted by the Maccabi twats, exactly as happened in Amsterdam.

This is what I fear may happen. Said locals retaliate, liars pretend it’s anti-semitism, morons believe it, like they often do.

Depends if the Paki Crews* mobilise.

They can act as Rapid Vienna as they want in large groups, but if I were a Jew, I wouldn't want to find myself on my own in Aston.

I think we're more likely to see a handful of wet Israelis than anything.

*Their own name at my school, not mine.

It might be, but wouldn’t ‘p***’ suffice ?

I used the word Jews in off topic and the pearl clutching was staggering

[Monty]

The locals would be targeted by the Maccabi twats, exactly as happened in Amsterdam.

This is what I fear may happen. Said locals retaliate, liars pretend it’s anti-semitism, morons believe it, like they often do.

Depends if the Paki Crews* mobilise.

They can act as Rapid Vienna as they want in large groups, but if I were a Jew, I wouldn't want to find myself on my own in Aston.

I think we're more likely to see a handful of wet Israelis than anything.

*Their own name at my school, not mine.

It might be, but wouldn’t ‘p***’ suffice ?

I used the word Jews in off topic and the pearl clutching was staggering

It wasn't the word in isolation, and the only thing that's staggering is your brazenness in pretending it was.

[olaftab]

The difference with this one is that you don't know where any potential problems might come from. The Maccabi supporters might want to meet a few pro-Palestinians, who in turn may be whipped up in the days before the match by stories about Zionists invading their territory. Then there's potential matchday protestors, who could be up town or at the ground. The local yout' having a look around and using the night as an opportunity to get a bit of their own back on the invaders who disrupt the neighbourhood every couple of weeks. Our own ne'erdowells getting involved. The possibilities are endless and unlike normally, with codes of conduct and only fighting their own, on this occasion all such bets may well be off.

I mostly agree with this except with the part about "get a bit of their own back". Aston and Witton under 30s are mostly Villa albeit not regular match attendees.
However I am alarmed by the chatter in the "community". It has gone up a few notches in the last week or so and everyone I meet is talking about it. People like Ayoub are not helping and stalking it all up for cheap publicity for themselves. Talk is not of Maccabi fans, they bring no fear to locals however it is all about why is an Israeli team being allowed to come here? So even if Maccabi fans were banned there will be a very large gathering around Villa Park demonstrating. The extreme right and casual racists will counter that and it could turn very ugly. If the match does go ahead I hope police seek a non- demo/gathering order for within a mile of Villa Park and confine any protest to city centre. However with the local population within that mile and at least 10% of our fans belonging to the flag shagger groups it could still be messy. I also fear an unholy alliance between Maccabi fans and our racist thugs.
Having said that I still want the match to be played.

[dave.woodhall]

Thanks Olaf for articulating this better than anyone else, although I'm pleasantly surprised that locals support Villa.

[Nev]

I saw two lads in Villa tops kicking a ball about on Whitehead Rd on my way to the match on Thursday, one had a Villa top on and then a whole family left their house for the match a little further down the road.

Our recent high profile and relative success has helped steer some away from the usual suspects evidently.