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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #630 on: Today at 11:25:46 AM »
Could be we're trying to avoid paying the £35m in this calendar year - UEFA's PSR/SQR rules run 1 Jan-31Dec, so if we can flip it to next year then that might help the financials?

That's the conspiracy theory, but why would Elliott or Liverpool agree for him to take that five month chunk out of his career and agree to that being the plan? Rather than just signing for someone who wants him and and will play him.

Another potential Monchi fuckup with rules? The same as when we bought so many players last January, got rid of others on loan and sale and then realised we couldn't register all the new ones for Europe.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #631 on: Today at 11:29:31 AM »
That definitely looks like a trend to me, too.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #632 on: Today at 11:31:01 AM »
I think he'll be fine, will make some key contributions and we'll all be saying how Emery has worked wonders again.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #633 on: Today at 11:32:03 AM »
Could be we're trying to avoid paying the £35m in this calendar year - UEFA's PSR/SQR rules run 1 Jan-31Dec, so if we can flip it to next year then that might help the financials?

That's the conspiracy theory, but why would Elliott or Liverpool agree for him to take that five month chunk out of his career and agree to that being the plan? Rather than just signing for someone who wants him and and will play him.

Another potential Monchi fuckup with rules? The same as when we bought so many players last January, got rid of others on loan and sale and then realised we couldn't register all the new ones for Europe.

It feels too amateurish for it to be true, but I definitely don't think it can be ruled out.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #634 on: Today at 11:38:13 AM »
Got to think he'll come into the reckoning at some stage and should help second half of the season. Then he adds more options to what we already have.

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #635 on: Today at 11:49:27 AM »
It feels too amateurish for it to be true, but I definitely don't think it can be ruled out.
It does, and yet over time, amateurism is becoming an increasingly plausible explanation for a number of transfer-related issues - in this case, the Malen registration mess and the Elliot situation. But there are other cases where our actions have, in a relative information vacuum, looked tinged at the time with the kind of genius that may turn out to be rooted in cluelessness. The protracted Luiz deal, for example, and the surprise Diaby exit – even though you couldn't really criticise the deals in themselves. Then there was the Ramsey exit, which never looked clever (though necessary).

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #636 on: Today at 12:03:29 PM »
It feels too amateurish for it to be true, but I definitely don't think it can be ruled out.
It does, and yet over time, amateurism is becoming an increasingly plausible explanation for a number of transfer-related issues - in this case, the Malen registration mess and the Elliot situation. But there are other cases where our actions have, in a relative information vacuum, looked tinged at the time with the kind of genius that may turn out to be rooted in cluelessness. The protracted Luiz deal, for example, and the surprise Diaby exit – even though you couldn't really criticise the deals in themselves. Then there was the Ramsey exit, which never looked clever (though necessary).


…and therefore, part of the reason why Monchi left?

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #637 on: Today at 12:07:18 PM »
I bought the tactical reasons as why he wasn’t featuring until this week, not getting on on Thursday or being in the squad yesterday I’m now fully onboard that we are talking to Liverpool to send him back in January and he was not a signing Unai wanted. 

I was happy when we signed him but also wary that he was a bit part player in a team that was on fire.

Not sure what the rules are if he went back as he played minutes for them and us this season, would that stop them sending him straight back out to say Fulham?

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Re: Harvey Elliott (signed on loan)
« Reply #638 on: Today at 12:25:39 PM »
…and therefore, part of the reason why Monchi left?
It's a very wild, very out there yet tantalising prospect.

It would shine a somewhat different light on that valedictory post-window tweet of Monchi arm in arm with his recruitment team, standing in front of a board with player names on (that [amateurishly?] can actually be deciphered). Portrayed at the time as "these soldiers have been in the trenches for you", was it actually more about "have we done enough to keep him his effing job?".


 


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