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Offline eamonn

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1365 on: Today at 12:52:30 AM »
He is very unselfish with the ball. Not sure it's down to lack of confidence any more as he's had a couple of shots lately but he does tend to offload at the earliest opportunity.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1366 on: Today at 06:56:27 AM »
I reckon he’ll end up back at Dortmund.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1367 on: Today at 08:23:14 AM »
He is very unselfish with the ball. Not sure it's down to lack of confidence any more as he's had a couple of shots lately but he does tend to offload at the earliest opportunity.
Earlier in the season Buendia was receiving and moving the ball quickly, he has now reverted to type and gets caught in possession.
I think Sancho is probably following instructions.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1368 on: Today at 08:26:48 AM »
I reckon he’ll end up back at Dortmund.

Dortmund fans I know love him. They said Malen was lazy though!!

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1369 on: Today at 08:27:36 AM »
He is very unselfish with the ball. Not sure it's down to lack of confidence any more as he's had a couple of shots lately but he does tend to offload at the earliest opportunity.

Winner against his former club on the last day to nudge us above them in second place.
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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1370 on: Today at 08:50:45 AM »
I'd be absolutely fine with him staying and equally as fine if he didn't.  The cynic in me thinks the improved performances are due to him needed to find a club in the summer and whoever signs him will be massively frustrated with him by October.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1371 on: Today at 08:54:30 AM »
I'd be absolutely fine with him staying and equally as fine if he didn't.  The cynic in me thinks the improved performances are due to him needed to find a club in the summer and whoever signs him will be massively frustrated with him by October.

Same, on all counts. If he feels settled and we're happy with what we think he can do then fine by me.

Still think he needs to up his game even further from his current (perfectly decent) standards to make us want to though.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1372 on: Today at 09:56:22 AM »
I have said this before in other threads but i feel this is Coutinhio all over again - at least Phil gave us some games to remember.

One goal and a few assists in a season long loan so far is pretty shite for circa £200K per week

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1373 on: Today at 09:58:17 AM »
But he's doing a job, holding possession and being cuter with his passing than Bailey for example.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1374 on: Today at 10:12:54 AM »
He's doing fine, and fine might be good enough for Unai (we genuinely don't know what instructions he's playing to, but Unai keeps picking him, so he's doing something right).  A couple of assists in his last couple of games doesn't hurt.

The reality is, he's going to be expensive in terms of wages, and previously I'd have thought, "well, he's free, so him getting an extra 70k a week above what we might be willing to pay, over four years, is only £20m, and we'd pay that on a 'punt' for an unknown quantity, so why not.

But these days, where wages are now a big factor for UEFA, I'm not sure adding very high earners is something we can afford to do?  If he's willing to be reasonable on wages, and fit within our structure, then I don't mind signing him.  I think we can probably do better, but with financial contraints as they are, I don't know how much we'd have to price in a 'gamble' on someone to replace him.

He's a known quantity.  Frustrating at times, clearly very talented, capable of something special, and the manager seems to like him (well, like him more than the current alternatives, at least).

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1375 on: Today at 10:17:55 AM »
I suspect we'll use the financial position as an excuse to have a 'blunt' conversation with him and make an offer that would place him amongst the better paid players at the club, but not the top tier. (ie. possibly only half his rumoured current wages).

Basically "This is all we can offer you due to the current situation. If you stay with us, we can give you a stable environment, regular european football, and top-tier coaching - with a view to improving salary package depending on team success. If you wish to find another higher-paid opportunity, so be it."

He walked on Chelsea last summer when they put a similar offer before him. Not sure football is his main priority. Anyway if the past week is anything to go by we might finally get a tune out of him down the stretch.

Even if that's true (and there's no evidence they cancelled the clause because he wouldn't accept a lower wage) it's an entirely different situation. At the time he was guaranteed another year on his £300k+ p/w deal with Man Utd. Accepting even £150k would've cost him millions and he wasn't playing regularly by the end of the season so what was the incentive for him?

Now he's got nothing to fall back on, whatever offers he gets this summer are all better than the alternative and I'm sure he'll be well aware that he's not getting anything like the money he has been on.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1376 on: Today at 10:19:41 AM »
He is very unselfish with the ball. Not sure it's down to lack of confidence any more as he's had a couple of shots lately but he does tend to offload at the earliest opportunity.

Winner against his former club on the last day to nudge us above them in second place.

I doubt he can play against ManUre, he's their player. I stand to be corrected.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1377 on: Today at 10:21:26 AM »
He is very unselfish with the ball. Not sure it's down to lack of confidence any more as he's had a couple of shots lately but he does tend to offload at the earliest opportunity.

Winner against his former club on the last day to nudge us above them in second place.

I doubt he can play against ManUre, he's their player. I stand to be corrected.

He couldn't, and didn't. But he can play against Man City though.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1378 on: Today at 10:21:36 AM »
But he's doing a job, holding possession and being cuter with his passing than Bailey for example.

Nowhere near the Bailey of 23/24. That version of Bailey whether starting or off the bench was outstanding.

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Re: Jadon Sancho (loan)
« Reply #1379 on: Today at 10:22:37 AM »
He is very unselfish with the ball. Not sure it's down to lack of confidence any more as he's had a couple of shots lately but he does tend to offload at the earliest opportunity.

Winner against his former club on the last day to nudge us above them in second place.

I doubt he can play against ManUre, he's their player. I stand to be corrected.

He couldn't, and didn't. But he can play against Man City though.

Apologies Dave, as soon as I typed it I was questioning myself.

 


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