Jadon Sancho (loan)

[Sexual Ealing]

Très bien!

[eamonn]

Did Tanswell write that article? Great tactical analysis as ever. Dunno about avant-garde but Jacob, a mere 25, is at the vanguard of moder football writing.

[Brazilian Villain]

Yeah, Avant-Garde is Tim Sherwood.

I maintain that Tim Sherwood is the man repsonsible for the current popularity of gilets.

[Drummond]

He will excel with a consistent run of gametime.

Malen was a slow starter also.

Give The Sanch time.

Really?!

Your usual metric is that forwards should provide end results. He has so far given us ZERO goals and ZERO assists.

[Smirker]

He will excel with a consistent run of gametime.

Malen was a slow starter also.

Give The Sanch time.

Really?!

Your usual metric is that forwards should provide end results. He has so far given us ZERO goals and ZERO assists.

They should, and he will.

Ollie doesn't get that patience because he's been here six seasons, is a regular starter and is 30 next month. Sancho has hardly been given a chance. If he gets settled and stinks the pitch up as bad as Ollie has for the past 18 months then I'll be just as critical of him.

18 goals in his last 80 apps for Ollie is it?

[Monty]

He's been here six years, five of which you ignore!

[Smirker]

He's been here six years, five of which you ignore!

I've never said he was shit before 18 months ago. Not sure why that keeps getting said tbh.

[Monty]

You did everything you could to say that his goal record was bad actually and that assists don't matter, BUT - let's not spread this over two threads, I'm glad you now agree that he was, in fact, good for us. This means that we actually agree.

[robleflaneur]

Onana,Tielemans,Rogers and Malen were constantly beating poor,physical weak opponents.It should have been an ideal opportunity for him but he didn't pose much of an attacking threat.What was worse,he didn't give any support for Maatsen in the only area where Young Boys were any danger.

[Smirker]

You did everything you could to say that his goal record was bad actually and that assists don't matter, BUT - let's not spread this over two threads, I'm glad you now agree that he was, in fact, good for us. This means that we actually agree.

Monty you cannot keep lying and expect me not to respond.

I never once said assists don't 'count'. I said they are irrelevant when we are taking about goalscoring. If the discussion was about assists then they would be relevant to that context. The problem was that the Watkins Worshippers were desperate to include assists because his goalscoring wasn't good and they couldn't accept it.

One season aside, his goalscoring has never has been great. When I said this people then added his assists to bump his numbers up. That was why it became a back and forth thing.

But that doesn't mean he was shit and I never said he was shit. He was good enough for the first few years because that was our level. We were trying to stay in the PL and establish ourselves. He isn't good enough now and hasn't been for 18 months. And this season particularly he has been diabolical.

The Sanch will come good but he has to be given a chance and a run in the team.

[Monty]

Boh.

Anyway, yes, young Jadon. I hope he comes good, but I've got a bad feeling. Just a bit...insubstantial. The contrast with Rashford is too striking to me - there's a problematic lack of breakthrough, lack of vim in his dribbles. We shall see.

[john e]

I don’t get the same vibes from Sancho that I was getting from Rashford to be honest
You could say they’ve both come to Villa Park to try and reignite their careers, Rashford is now playing well for Barcelona. I don’t think Sancho will ever play at the very highest level again.

In fact I look at him as a bit of a fraud actually and think how did you get anyone to pay 80 odd million for you and pay you 300K a week
I mean he’s not rubbish and he does some decent things but he’s not 300k good nowhere near

[London Villan]

The penny might drop that we are the last big club he might ever play for…. He may not care, he doesn’t need to, it’s just if he has any professional pride.

[rob_bridge]

Boh.

Anyway, yes, young Jadon. I hope he comes good, but I've got a bad feeling. Just a bit...insubstantial. The contrast with Rashford is too striking to me - there's a problematic lack of breakthrough, lack of vim in his dribbles. We shall see.

I think that is a direct compare and contrast. Rashford had grown out and old of United and realistically should have moved 3 or 4 years ago.

Sancho seems to have grown old and out of pro football par se.

Half a good season in 4.5 years.

[Pat McMahon]

I don’t have Sky or TNT so didn’t  see Sancho at Dortmund when he was apparently quite good. But for Manyoo, England and Villa he has never done anything to make me believe he could be as good as say Marc Albrighton, never mind a top class player.