Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[darren woolley]

Very disappointed we need to bring in some players if we can.

[DaveD]

I think the whole squad has just taken a collective punch in the gut. We were a team on the up, but all of a sudden we have lost numerous players and there doesn't seem to be any possibility of replacing them with equivalent quality. Everyone remaining clearly has their price. All the positivity has been sucked from the club. We all know why, it's not an internal problem, and that's what makes it so depressing and seemingly intractable.

Hopefully this is just a short term lack of confidence, and the squad will rally. Ultimately we have a great manager and good players. Let's hope they snap out of it sooner rather than later.

[VancouverLion]

I think the whole squad has just taken a collective punch in the gut. We were a team on the up, but all of a sudden we have lost numerous players and there doesn't seem to be any possibility of replacing them with equivalent quality. Everyone remaining clearly has their price. All the positivity has been sucked from the club. We all know why, it's not an internal problem, and that's what makes it so depressing and seemingly intractable.

Hopefully this is just a short term lack of confidence, and the squad will rally. Ultimately we have a great manager and good players. Let's hope they snap out of it sooner rather than later.

This.

[Hillbilly]

Thought it was an odd decision to take Buendia off. At least he added a bit of energy and attempted to get things moving around the box. Rogers would have been a better call. He really was off it.

Also we seem really reluctant to shoot from anywhere past the penalty spot. I know it runs the risk of rebounding out for a counter but it would mean that the defenders can’t just sit in front of the six yard box - one or two would have to come out and leave a little more wriggle room closer to goal.

[jwarry]

There is no need to panic.  It’s pretty clear that the lesser teams now know how to beat us by playing a low block and hurting us on the break - Emery has to figure this out.  I’m more worried about the better teams who press us as I’m not sure we  have the quality to beat the press

[jwarry]

Oh and playing two defensive midfield pivots against a low block is a waste of a player

[tomd2103]

I think the whole squad has just taken a collective punch in the gut. We were a team on the up, but all of a sudden we have lost numerous players and there doesn't seem to be any possibility of replacing them with equivalent quality. Everyone remaining clearly has their price. All the positivity has been sucked from the club. We all know why, it's not an internal problem, and that's what makes it so depressing and seemingly intractable.

Hopefully this is just a short term lack of confidence, and the squad will rally. Ultimately we have a great manager and good players. Let's hope they snap out of it sooner rather than later.

This.

Yep.  Way too early to make any real assessments and to start to panic  just yet.  The media will be more than happy to do that for us anyway.

We all know the reason why, but we've been unable to properly address some of the issues that became glaringly apparent pre-January window last season.  No proper option on the right hand side, no real pace in attack, Rogers needs to come off sharpish if he is having the kind of nightmare he is prone to having (though we've sold the player who would naturally take his place), not having adequate cover at CB unbalances the team.  We've been unable to address these problems in the summer for obvious reasons, but I think it's nowhere near time to push the panic button.

[ROBBO]

Buendia still being with us is telling, JM our most aggressive midfielder being played out on a wing is puzzling. We were told we have to sell to buy so sell we did but still no incoming. In his after match interview I thought Emery looked depressed.

[ChicagoLion]

It isn’t just PSR though is it.
We have not used the transfer funds we have had particularly well and we are not deploying the resources we have effectively.
It’s not PSR that is stopping players winning their individual duals, or the tactical confusion that seems to have taken hold.
Yes it’s a problem, but we just got done by a Brentford team which has had all of its quality ripped out led by a rookie manager.

[Ads]

It is if players are demotivated because their mates ae being sold for artifical reasons and they're feeling a bit sorry for themselves. This is speculating of course.

We've had two poor performances though, 1 OK result and 1 defeat. It's a Bank Holiday let's enjoy it and enjoy it by being fucking disciplined right here.

[Meanwood Villa]

I've just watched the couple of mins Sky highlights. I thought their goal was lucky the way it rebounded to him. I suppose the bigger issue is our lack of threat up the other end.

[sid1964]

I agree with meanwood Villa - I also have only seen a couple of mins of “highlights” there goal was fortunate and we did have a couple of chances to equalise

Hopefully with a couple of loan players arriving this week who can go straight into our first 11 we can get a win against palace.

[frank black]

To many people feeling sorry for themselves, including the boss.

[Walmley_Villa]

To many people feeling sorry for themselves, including the boss.

Exactly, we need a siege mentality and a we’ll show them spirit very quickly. The whole club feels infected with it. Unai deserves criticism and has changed his approach since the Palace SF. We play to stop the opposition and it doesn’t work. If we turn op the same as usual against Palace it will get ugly very quickly imo.

[andyh]

There is no need to panic.  It’s pretty clear that the lesser teams now know how to beat us by playing a low block and hurting us on the break - Emery has to figure this out.  I’m more worried about the better teams who press us as I’m not sure we  have the quality to beat the press

Teams do not set up with a ‘low block’ against us.
We allow teams to get back into their reset positions because we are pathetically slow at progressing the ball up the pitch.
Even when we do break from the goalie, we invariably get to the half way line and turn / pass back or sideways, giving the opposition time to jog back into position.
Thats not just a throwaway comment, it happens consistently.

And, is there anything more infuriating than seeing Mings and Torres stand on the ball or pass 3 yards to each other on the half way line in the 4th minute of injury time when we are 1-0 down ?