Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[N'ZMAV]

Can somebody, preferably Unai, explain how it's possible we can simultaneously get immediately and constantly pressed trying to bring the ball out of defence yet the opposition will have 10 men (they left one up front for the counter) behind the ball when we advance up the pitch? Tactically it shouldn't be possible yet somehow that's exactly what happened today.

because we're so fucking slow in our build up

[pelty]

Manager has no idea what he is doing. Terrible lineup, poor substitutions, and still trusts Pau “lump of shite” Torres. So poor.

[N'ZMAV]

Like I said somewhere else, he is trying too hard to fudge Rogers, Tielemans and McGinn in every team. Might need to go back to basics a little and get Tielemans, Kamara and McGinn in the middle - Watkins up top with Malen and Guessand wide. Get some players playing in their best positions.

[KevinGage]

I just think some perspective is needed sometimes. If the Rogers goal is allowed up at Old Trafford, we might well have been in the Champions League draw again next week. That would have been a fantastic achievement.

Villa being Villa, I still reckon we'd have found a way to throw that game even if the goal had stood.

We had a back four containing Torres and Maatsen in it, for one thing. Olsen in goal and down to ten men.

The perfect ingredients for a last minute winner for Yanited.

[KevinGage]

My bigger problem with that game is we went up there like tourists happy just to be there and pissed our pants.

Even before Emi's brainfreeze.

We made Mason Mount look like Rivaldo with all the space we ceded.

[Demitri_C]

 Grotesque  game from us.

Limited positives at all from.opening two games. Our defence was a complete shambles. No suprise pau made the error hence why i said mings is the better defender. He is hard to watch at times as he simply cannot defend consistently.

Our midfield is so stale, slow and predictable.  We are so slow getting the ball forward. Its got worse each season  for this. The biggest mistake we made was selling diaby.  His pace was essnetial for how we play. Now we got slow mcginn on the right  who is isnt good there

You got rogers constantly losing the ball, onana just running  around like a headless chicken  and ollie getting frustrated  as he has no one  creating anything. If today isnt worrying signs i dont know what is. We desperately  need players or its going to be midtable at best.

[pelty]

Grotesque  game from us.

Limited positives at all from.opening two games. Our defence was a complete shambles. No suprise pau made the error hence why i said mings is the better defender. He is hard to watch at times as he simply cannot defend consistently.

Our midfield is so stale, slow and predictable.  We are so slow getting the ball forward. Its got worse each season  for this. The biggest mistake we made was selling diaby.  His pace was essnetial for how we play. Now we got slow mcginn on the right  who is isnt good there

You got rogers constantly losing the ball, onana just running  around like a headless chicken  and ollie getting frustrated  as he has no one  creating anything. If today isnt worrying signs i dont know what is. We desperately  need players or its going to be midtable at best.

This is it for me, too.

[nordenvillain]

We have no pace in the team, so it was so so easy for Brentford to get behind the ball. There's no one willing to take on a man or men to create something more than 20 passes to get to the opposition penalty box. Ollie must be so frustrated that nothing except scraps is being created for him. Bizot last week varied his distribution, Emi just played the ball to one of the CB's who invariably played it to each other or in Pau's case an aimless ball that doesn't go to a Villa player. One of the other problems with playing 2 left footed CB's was that we had no width at the back,  you could have driven a large bus between Cash and Mings. When Bogarde came on, I really thought that he was going to play CB. Onto Palace and the warning bells will be even louder if we don't get 3 points.

[aj2k77]

That's 2 games in a row a simple ball over the top has fucked us because the centre backs are cart horse pace.

[VillaTim]

Did Emery really take Buendia off for Bogarde . Bogarde in midfield was hideous, at least Buendia was finding pockets of space . Bizarre from the manager .

[brontebilly]

Did Emery really take Buendia off for Bogarde . Bogarde in midfield was hideous, at least Buendia was finding pockets of space . Bizarre from the manager .

More McGinn I think for Bogarde. Change didn't make much sense to me. Thought Bogarde was coming on at RCB which would have been a bit more logical

[Demitri_C]

Did Emery really take Buendia off for Bogarde . Bogarde in midfield was hideous, at least Buendia was finding pockets of space . Bizarre from the manager .

Yeah  i must admit although im happy bogarde got minutes he was terrible  today

[Ads]

I thought Bogarde was decent when he came on.

[Exeter 77]

I thought Bogarde was decent when he came on.

He passed the ball well enough but was also very safe with that passing as if he was scared to give the ball away.

[frank black]

I thought Bogarde was decent when he came on.

He was

Width is our issue, we have bugger all creative happening on either wing. Teams just shut the middle down, get in shape before our deliberately (Unai instructed) slow approach play gets into gear (3rd max). I find Unai perplexing at times.