Brentford vs Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

To summarise the general sentiment.

All is lost, get rid of Emery, sell the entire squad, Monchi & Vidigany are con merchants, demolish Villa Park, NSWE should just cut their losses and sell up.

The only way is down.






See you next week v Palace.

That’s not the general sentiment - that’s pretty much one individual who is not worth listening too. I think the sentiment is more frustration with how stale things are and why Unai is approaching things like he is - both valid concerns.

[PeterWithesShin]

NSWE are killing this club.

[Percy McCarthy]

Newcastle supposedly in a mess at home and a poor Brentford away, and we look hopeless in both and don't look like scoring. Kamara out with a hamstring would be horrific. We are easy to play against, and so boring to watch. Another weekend go give MOTD a miss...mid table season for us unfortunately

I’ll be watching but turning it off two minutes before the end which will deservedly be our spot.

[Billy Walker]

It's clear to me, at least, that PSR is preventing us from naturally building and evolving, however,  I totally trust Unai and his team to box clever and work a way around this hurdle.  If this turns into a season where we have to take one step back to take two forward, so be it.

[PaulWinch again]

It's clear to me, at least, that PSR is preventing us from naturally building and evolving, however,  I totally trust Unai and his team to box clever and work a way around this hurdle.  If this turns into a season where we have to take one step back to take two forward, so be it.

Regardless of the wider picture, there is nothing excuse for how we’ve approached the first two games.

[Paul.S]

It's clear to me, at least, that PSR is preventing us from naturally building and evolving, however,  I totally trust Unai and his team to box clever and work a way around this hurdle.  If this turns into a season where we have to take one step back to take two forward, so be it.

Couldn’t agree more.

[Mister E]

It's clear to me, at least, that PSR is preventing us from naturally building and evolving, however,  I totally trust Unai and his team to box clever and work a way around this hurdle.  If this turns into a season where we have to take one step back to take two forward, so be it.

Couldn’t agree more.

it doesn't explain the tactics and general approach to these games and the last game of last season. There appears to be a tactical mismatch between how Emery wants us to play and the needs of the game in the EPL

[SaddVillan]

It's clear to me, at least, that PSR is preventing us from naturally building and evolving, however,  I totally trust Unai and his team to box clever and work a way around this hurdle.  If this turns into a season where we have to take one step back to take two forward, so be it.

Couldn’t agree more.

This.

PSR/SCR are doing exactly what it says on the tin.

To ensure the Greedy6  maintain their positions and to prevent ambitious clubs being able to compete on an even playing field.

Defend the status quo and keep the wealth in the game in the cartel

[lovejoy]

I’m glad the owners don’t read this reactionary thread.

We are a miserable negative support on occasions.

[jwarry]

The first half of last season was similar, except we had Duran to come on & change the game. We don't have the quality to open up a packed defence nor the option to go direct. And once we go a goal down it's hard work

Yet

[Paul.S]

It's clear to me, at least, that PSR is preventing us from naturally building and evolving, however,  I totally trust Unai and his team to box clever and work a way around this hurdle.  If this turns into a season where we have to take one step back to take two forward, so be it.

Couldn’t agree more.

it doesn't explain the tactics and general approach to these games and the last game of last season. There appears to be a tactical mismatch between how Emery wants us to play and the needs of the game in the EPL

I think he’s proven over the last 3 seasons with us that’s he’s more than capable and has the tactical nouse to sort things out.
Being hamstrung by the financial rules is another issue but I wouldn’t want anyone else here.

[RamboandBruno]

Back to the old days.

A lot of our players think achieving a massive wage packet constitutes enough success.

Heard a statistic last week that resonated with me. Sunderland started with four of the players that got them promoted!! Seven were demoted in one way or another!!!!

Had we decided to turn up against Man Utd last season, how many of our starting eleven today would have started or still be at the club?

Damning I know, but our performances at the end of last season and the beginning of this reek of complacency and a bunch of players who are happy with their lot.

FFP and PSR rules have given our starting eleven extra security with less expectation. Breeds complacency.

Unai need to rattle the cage soon or we can write this season off.

Sorry, normally try to be positive but disillusioned at the moment.

Whilst I agree about the start of this season and the Man Utd away game, careful how you quantify our performances at the end of last season. Our last performance at Old Trafford was awful, but that aside, this squad with Rashford, Asensio and Disasi, pretty much had league winning form from January onwards.
If we want to squash this season so far and last season together, if thats worthwhile at all, we’re on the crest of a 3 game slump.
We need two or three in, we all know that, Emery has been more candid than normal about that.
In terms of his team selections so far this season, I think its partly about trying to shore up the defence with a more nefative midfield set up, but its not working. I also think Emery rarely throws new purchases straight in (Rashford and Asensio were exceptions), which is why I’d guess he hasnt started Guessand yet, Malen he doesn’t seem to trust completely yet.

[Sexual Ealing]

I was at a gala luncheon. Are we shit again?

[Olneythelonely]

I was at a gala luncheon. Are we shit again?

Looks that way. Wish I was at a luncheon.

[Allan C]

Back to the old days.

A lot of our players think achieving a massive wage packet constitutes enough success.

Heard a statistic last week that resonated with me. Sunderland started with four of the players that got them promoted!! Seven were demoted in one way or another!!!!

Had we decided to turn up against Man Utd last season, how many of our starting eleven today would have started or still be at the club?

Damning I know, but our performances at the end of last season and the beginning of this reek of complacency and a bunch of players who are happy with their lot.

FFP and PSR rules have given our starting eleven extra security with less expectation. Breeds complacency.

Unai need to rattle the cage soon or we can write this season off.

Sorry, normally try to be positive but disillusioned at the moment.

This is pretty much my feelings on the situation too. I’m pretty frustrated and disillusioned about us at the moment. I looked at our lineup last week and thought same old same old. The 4th and 5th worst teams in the PL have strengthened. Just about all of the top 5 have except us and Newcastle. If that’s how the game is going why bother??