Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread

[Ads]

Keep playing like that and never mind champions league, it’ll be relegation.

Lol

[Ian.]

Ned.

Oh yes. Ta

[Drummond]

Didn't see the game, how did our 50m man get on in midfield? Making only one sub seems odd.

Much like everyone else (other than Bizot) looked entirely off it. I include Unai in that, as I think our game plan was just wrong.

I just couldn't get into it either. Maybe it was being Upper North for a change.

[eamonn]

Rogers i agree wasnt  fit. He had a very bad game. Not sure why unai didnt take him off sooner that was a wierd one

By making Rogers the attacking fulcrum Emery has painted himself into a corner a bit. Rogers has become undroppable and is subbed-off too late or not at all when having a mare. He should be pulled off when he's not performing and left-out when not fit or out of form.

[Percy McCarthy]

The timing of the sending off was crucial. Its about that time when Emery usually makes changes which have so often got us a result in a game that was heading for stalemate. The biggest issue for me was our wayward passing in the first half. Time and again our attacks broke down before we even got going. Work to do and some new recruits hopefully coming in will put a different outlook on things. Its certainly not as doom and gloom as some posters are making out. Onwards and upwards.

Strongly agree with this summary and reiterate the first point in particular. We started with a very conservative game-plan and I think the idea was to become more adventurous as the opportunity arose (we did that a lot in our good run at the end of last season). We were approaching that point when the sending off happened and scuppered that. But as someone else said, Konsa could have saved us a point and we’ll never know for sure.

Delighted with the upgrade Bizot gives us in reserve, I don’t think Olsen saves the early Elanga chance, or even the one Bizot shovelled round the post from Gordon.

Glad Mings is back as a seemingly important player and leader and I hope he gets the nod in some of the bigger games we hope to play at the business end, and Torres continues to contribute with his skill-set in games that suit him.

I like Kamara and Onana but we missed Tielemans vision and passing accuracy in a deeper position. Our midfield combinations will out-class a few PL midfields over the season, but Jaudi Arabia’s is one of the best, although they’ll have a huge workload to deal with this season.

Two seasons ago we got off to a nightmare start and the conference league helped give the team rhythm and confidence that was missing today and we benefitted from that throughout the season. I suspect that will happen again and we’ll see the best of Malen, Guessand and maybe Buendia with a few goals and assists behind them.

I’m pretty confident reinforcements and greater depth and variety is incoming so overall I’m very optimistic. And it was great to be back at church, even though it’s gonna cost me a small fortune again as I scramble for waiting list points.

[ChicagoLion]

what was the Premier League  song about?

Not sure, but we'll probably play the Championship one by mistake this season.

It sounded like the Newcastle fans joined in.
Premier league- - - - -

[danno]

what was the Premier League  song about?

Not sure, but we'll probably play the Championship one by mistake this season.

It sounded like the Newcastle fans joined in.
Premier league- - - - -

Corrupt as F*ck.

[ChicagoLion]

what was the Premier League  song about?

Not sure, but we'll probably play the Championship one by mistake this season.

It sounded like the Newcastle fans joined in.
Premier league- - - - -

Corrupt as F*ck.

was this mentioned on the TV commentary any where?

[PeterWithe]

Delighted with a point, and I think I would have been even if we'd stayed at 11x.

First half was abject and I'm glad we got to half time without conceding, we seemed ponderous, lethargic and lacking any of the qualities needing to compete in a game. You would have expected, with the midfield set up, to at least have looked secure but we didn't, we were second to every second ball and under the cosh.

Second half we at least injected some 'zip' and at least looked like ourselves without ever discovering the fluidity needed to create chances, after the sending off it seemed both sides were happy with the point and I dont think they created anything either. Bright spots, Bizot looked really good, McGinn rag dolling their left back time and again, thought Cash really stood up and put in a really mature performance when were down to 10.

Newcastle are a very well coached team, no stars in their starting side but they all know the plan and carry it out effectively, Gordon looks to have bulked up and was a threat.

[Chris Smith]

Delighted with a point, and I think I would have been even if we'd stayed at 11x.

First half was abject and I'm glad we got to half time without conceding, we seemed ponderous, lethargic and lacking any of the qualities needing to compete in a game. You would have expected, with the midfield set up, to at least have looked secure but we didn't, we were second to every second ball and under the cosh.

Second half we at least injected some 'zip' and at least looked like ourselves without ever discovering the fluidity needed to create chances, after the sending off it seemed both sides were happy with the point and I dont think they created anything either. Bright spots, Bizot looked really good, McGinn rag dolling their left back time and again, thought Cash really stood up and put in a really mature performance when were down to 10.

Newcastle are a very well coached team, no stars in their starting side but they all know the plan and carry it out effectively, Gordon looks to have bulked up and was a threat.

Agreed, it was noticeable in the first half how we kept trying to slow the game down in contrast to their flat out hustling approach. They were playing without a recognised striker and consequently the midfield was always congested.

In the second we upped it and managed to push them further back without ever really hitting our best and then the sending off spoilt any chance of being able to change that. In the circumstances a clean sheet and extending our unbeaten home record should be taken as positives.

[Demitri_C]

The priority is a Right Back and it has been for a while now.

It’s not. In fact that’s 3rd/4th on the this. We need more attacking options and a centre half before a right back.

I disagree we need a right back as much as those positions.

A right back that can play both centre half and rb would be ideal. Someone that geertriudas would be ideal

[Mister E]

what was the Premier League  song about?

Not sure, but we'll probably play the Championship one by mistake this season.

It sounded like the Newcastle fans joined in.
Premier league- - - - -

Corrupt as F*ck.

was this mentioned on the TV commentary any where?

Yes, Fletcher mentioned it halfway through the second half.

[Ads]

I think Edge and Percy sum things up really quite accurately. Hard to reconcile the selection and passive display first half with the pressing set up we usually adopt at home to them and how we featured in pre-season.

I'm racking my brains for the reason for the tactical and selection caution shown and they're all unsatisfactory answers in my head, for the most part.

A Malen and a Maatsen would have helped the counter press and stopped Newcastle having the freedom to quickly recycle first half and also given us an out ball for the wayward passing, least. An odd one really.

Anyway I look forward to the £100m a season Fortress LLC can pay us in sponsorship for Fortress Villa Park. As that's allowed surely? Going rate for the best home record going in the Best League in the World. Premier League, corrupt as fuck indeed.

[The Edge]

I think Edge and Percy sum things up really quite accurately. Hard to reconcile the selection and passive display first half with the pressing set up we usually adopt at home to them and how we featured in pre-season.

I'm racking my brains for the reason for the tactical and selection caution shown and they're all unsatisfactory answers in my head, for the most part.

A Malen and a Maatsen would have helped the counter press and stopped Newcastle having the freedom to quickly recycle first half and also given us an out ball for the wayward passing, least. An odd one really.

Anyway I look forward to the £100m a season Fortress LLC can pay us in sponsorship for Fortress Villa Park. As that's allowed surely? Going rate for the best home record going in the Best League in the World. Premier League, corrupt as fuck indeed.

Absolutely and thanks Ads. I think there is a growing resentment of PSR as the reality of its intentions have slowly dawned on everyone outside the Greedy6. We either have to be extremely creative to make ourselves competitive or we need to lead the way in being more vocal in our objections to it.

[AV82EC]

I think Edge and Percy sum things up really quite accurately. Hard to reconcile the selection and passive display first half with the pressing set up we usually adopt at home to them and how we featured in pre-season.

I'm racking my brains for the reason for the tactical and selection caution shown and they're all unsatisfactory answers in my head, for the most part.

A Malen and a Maatsen would have helped the counter press and stopped Newcastle having the freedom to quickly recycle first half and also given us an out ball for the wayward passing, least. An odd one really.

Anyway I look forward to the £100m a season Fortress LLC can pay us in sponsorship for Fortress Villa Park. As that's allowed surely? Going rate for the best home record going in the Best League in the World. Premier League, corrupt as fuck indeed.

Absolutely and thanks Ads. I think there is a growing resentment of PSR as the reality of its intentions have slowly dawned on everyone outside the Greedy6. We either have to be extremely creative to make ourselves competitive or we need to lead the way in being more vocal in our objections to it.

It’s both in my view. The hierarchy know what needs to be done both commercially and with the squad and it may take time. I don’t think people have quite come to terms with our need to player trade to help boost turnover either. It may not be to people’s liking but taking the Brighton/Brentford model and tweaking it for where we operate wouldn’t go amiss. I think we’ve missed a couple of opportunities to sell assets at peak prices (Bailey/Luiz) but that’s maybe offset with the Diaby/Duran activity. But generally we’re moving in the right direction, all be it maybe not as quickly as we’d like.

In terms of what we can do, change the chant to

Domestically “PSR, corrupt as fuck” and

European games “SCR, corrupt as fuck”

And get some banners with that on as well.