Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread

[Demitri_C]

I'd rather Diaby back than Asensio if i'm honest and i wasn't a Diaby fan, but he or someone like him is 100% the outball we need now .

I would take diaby back in a heart  beat he was good and i still think it was a mistake  letting him go.  But we can't afford it now unfortunately

[Ian.]

I do find it crazy in the context of the position we’re in who look at a player with Asensio’s pedigree, and who scored 8 goals for us, and go, “yeah he’s not good enough for us”. He tailed off a bit, let’s not forget though he was the best player on the pitch against Spurs in the penultimate game. He won’t consistently deliver week in week out, but he will win us games with his brilliance. We need that, and would be fortunate to have it.

Last season a few times I heard people say Tielemans should be further forward but today showed he has more influence deeper. Asensio is much better in that role. We really could do with some pace, especially
 if we haven’t got Bailey or even Ramsey charging forward.

It felt a bit like to today we wanted to pack our midfield with all our best midfielders.  But i don’t think Mcginn benefits playing that wide ,  Tielemans. that further forward and Rogers certainly doesn’t like being wide .

All the above make good points. Agree with you about McGinn too. The other day, can't remember against who but we started Kamara, Youri and Onana together in midfield and I was very pleasantly surprised how well they worked together. We don't have to play all our midfield together unless we are expecting to get slaughtered against top European competition away from home.

I was fairly happy with the line up, however I did groan when I saw Malen on the bench. Other than him playing and maybe Torres for Mings I’d have been happy.

[Nev]

The manager will be gone by this time next year, and it's precisely what they want. I won't blame him, he has ambitions that he will achieve with some other club.

We will be angry, upset etc etc but no one notices and Sky will crack on.

Ever feel like you've been cheated?

Who's "they"

Those that stand to gain the most from the strangulation of competition and meritocracy.

[Monty]

Pace is a subcategory of movement. We need more and better movement of all kinds - pace is one type, but Asensio posseses another, and we're in no position to turn anything of high quality down.

[VILLA MOLE]

yes sometimes we have players isolated especially when playing out of the back. We manoeuvre out with 2-3 passes then become stuck

[PaulWinch again]

Pace is a subcategory of movement. We need more and better movement of all kinds - pace is one type, but Asensio posseses another, and we're in no position to turn anything of high quality down.

Precisely - reality is we need both. But we need Asensio without doubt, he makes our squad much better.

[garyellis]

The manager will be gone by this time next year,

No, he won't! Now that I've cleared that up, you can relax and enjoy the rest of this season (and next).

And if it needs any extra I am more than willing to back that up with a matched contribution to Acorns if Unai is not here this time “next year.”

[ChicagoLion]

A lot of things didn’t go well today.
Newcastle looked sharper and fitter and pretty much dominated the first half but did not have a clinical finisher.
Tielemens was played in a position to receive the ball but there wasn’t a Tielemans in a position to pass the ball. Onanas lack of ability with the ball slowed any chance of counter attack. Rogers was poor all round and we need to play him where he can be effective,it isn’t out wide and chasing the opposition attackers.
I thought Kamara was excellent and Mcginn showed why we need him.
Cash is a disaster waiting to happen and I am not sure how much more evidence people need to realise what a liability he is.
We got away with a point.

[brontebilly]

Pace is a subcategory of movement. We need more and better movement of all kinds - pace is one type, but Asensio posseses another, and we're in no position to turn anything of high quality down.

Precisely - reality is we need both. But we need Asensio without doubt, he makes our squad much better.

He really didnt. Once the goals dried up he offered very little..one sure way to piss Rogers off if he's moved wide to accommodate him again. No tactical flexibility with Asensio, 10 or the bench. We can't afford that.

'Pace out wide' is the new '25 goal striker'. Rashford wasn't played out wide all that often, Malen the same. With little change to the squad, not sure this is the season for Emery to change it up tactically with the same players. Best off sticking to the narrow midfield 4. Waste of time playing Onana next to Kamara and Barkley isn't good enough or fit enough either. Another big problem, our midfield cover for Kamara and Tielemans is nowhere near good enough.

RCB is an absolute priority. Moving Kamara there today only highlights where Bogarde is in Emerys thoughts. Backup to Watkins second and a McGinn clone if possible.

[ChicagoLion]

The priority is a Right Back and it has been for a while now.

[PaulWinch again]

The priority is a Right Back and it has been for a while now.

It’s not. In fact that’s 3rd/4th on the this. We need more attacking options and a centre half before a right back.

[PaulWinch again]

Pace is a subcategory of movement. We need more and better movement of all kinds - pace is one type, but Asensio posseses another, and we're in no position to turn anything of high quality down.

Precisely - reality is we need both. But we need Asensio without doubt, he makes our squad much better.

He really didnt. Once the goals dried up he offered very little..one sure way to piss Rogers off if he's moved wide to accommodate him again. No tactical flexibility with Asensio, 10 or the bench. We can't afford that.

'Pace out wide' is the new '25 goal striker'. Rashford wasn't played out wide all that often, Malen the same. With little change to the squad, not sure this is the season for Emery to change it up tactically with the same players. Best off sticking to the narrow midfield 4. Waste of time playing Onana next to Kamara and Barkley isn't good enough or fit enough either. Another big problem, our midfield cover for Kamara and Tielemans is nowhere near good enough.

RCB is an absolute priority. Moving Kamara there today only highlights where Bogarde is in Emerys thoughts. Backup to Watkins second and a McGinn clone if possible.

Sorry Bronte I know this is all about opinion, but you’re wrong on this. Pace out wide isn’t the new “25 goal a season striker” it’s just a thing you need to open games up. Unai has used it. Asensio is also a class option, which we badly need.

Rogers is a brilliant, but developing player, playing out wide will likely help him in the long-run and it’s also how he gets to the World Cup so unlikely to piss him off.

Also it’s a squad game -  we’ll be fucked if we are starting a player in 50 plus games.

I agree we need a centre-half though.

[pauliewalnuts]

I'm surprised by some the moaning on here. The first game of the season which sometimes can always be a bit scrappy,  neither side were great (to say the least) and we got a draw with ten men. Lacked pace but i think he would have changed that had Konsa not gone off. First game people.

I think you might need a bit of perspective - it's hardly a moan-fest is it?

That's why I said 'some'. No-one mentioned moan-fest, only you.

I know, Clamps, that's why i said it is NOT exactly a moan-fest.

The reaction seems pretty honest and muted to me.

I know that doesn't fit with your patrolling the threads, telling everyone they're silly shtick, but hey ho.

There's barely any overreaction. In fact, there's barely any moaning. Except your usual moaning at others routine.

[danno]

Isn’t Malen our pace out wide option?

[ChicagoLion]

The priority is a Right Back and it has been for a while now.

It’s not. In fact that’s 3rd/4th on the this. We need more attacking options and a centre half before a right back.

I disagree, we have needed better than Cash for a few seasons now.
Imagine what we would be if we had someone as competent RB as Digne is at LB.