Aston Villa v Newcastle Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Are we allowed to criticize Emery here?  I'm not sure he got the game plan right here as we struggled to make anything happen.  He subbed in an attacker after we went to 10 men, and honestly we looked more threatening than we did the whole game before that.  Then he never made another sub in a game where we were trying to kill off time.

I think he got it wrong - he tried to set up to battle Newcastle in midfield which is exactly what they wanted.

[Rigadon]

Only Mcginn and Bizot come out with much credit.  The 1st half was appalling.  The second half until the red, a bit better but not by much. 

Rogers looks unfit and, sorry to say it, we were crying out for Ramsey’s drive.

Special mention to the referee who was shocking.

[Steve67]

I thought both sides looked toothless.  They were better first half, we were better second half but even after that twat Konsa went off, the barcodes still looked toothless.  0-0 was a fair and accurate result.  Villa defended ok, sloppy passing let us down. I'm ok with a point.

[brontebilly]

Blaming Cash for the red card is peak confirmation bias as well. It was a misplaced pass into the box - although why no one was there I’m not sure. There was so much to happen after that and Konsa got it horronly wrong. He let Gordon run off him and then put his hand on his shoulder, it was an inevitable red.

Agreed, only watching it back there. A poor cross from Cash gets cleared but our two holding midfielders are miles out of position to start with. No pressure on pass as a result but our two centre halves are woeful to leave a gap that size between them to start with. At least force their midfielder to play the ball down the wing. I think Konsa initially thinks he can play offside but realises he's in their half so panics. It's always going to be a red card and an early test of what our depth at RCB is like.

[JUAN PABLO]

and Asensio in.

agree , at least he gets us under a bit of control with his experience and quality as he dont lose the ball much and keeps possession , kind of player I thought we needed to today plus he does the odd bit of magic to get you a goal.

I think it will happen.

[villadelph]

I thought both sides looked toothless.  They were better first half, we were better second half but even after that twat Konsa went off, the barcodes still looked toothless.  0-0 was a fair and accurate result.  Villa defended ok, sloppy passing let us down. I'm ok with a point.

If they had Isak or had actually gotten Sesko though..

[Smirker]

Watkins was especially shit.

Of course he was

Other than get caught offside, lose the ball and have one shot straight at the keeper what did he do?

[Somniloquism]

Are we allowed to criticize Emery here?  I'm not sure he got the game plan right here as we struggled to make anything happen.  He subbed in an attacker after we went to 10 men, and honestly we looked more threatening than we did the whole game before that.  Then he never made another sub in a game where we were trying to kill off time.

The whole decision making was weird. It looked like he thought, lets play the same team as won 4-1 last season. But we didn't have Asensio so he moved Tielemans into that position. The down side is we then had no one who could play the ball through Newcastle from further back.

[Rudy Can't Fail]

A lot to work on, still. Bizot looks a good pair of hands but some individuals had a worrying performance.

We deserved absolutely nothing and got a point, onwards and upwards.

I'd give Bizot a 7/10, took care of pretty much everything without much fuss.
The defence 6/10 plenty of low blocks but lucky Newcastle couldn't finish their chances.
Midfield and attack 2/10 - could rarely string two passes together.
Sub: Malen 7/10. Still makes things happen
Unai: 1/10. Only one team out there looked like they'd been coached and it wasn't us.

After that display I'm delighted with a point. Sad thing is Newcastle are nothing special but at least they can pass a ball.

[Somniloquism]

I thought both sides looked toothless.  They were better first half, we were better second half but even after that twat Konsa went off, the barcodes still looked toothless.  0-0 was a fair and accurate result.  Villa defended ok, sloppy passing let us down. I'm ok with a point.

If they had Isak or had actually gotten Sesko though..

If my aunt had.......

[Olneythelonely]

Watkins was especially shit.

Of course he was

Other than get caught offside, lose the ball and have one shot straight at the keeper what did he do?

Not a lot. Nor did any of them. He wasn’t “especially shit”.

[Brazilian Villain]

But bloody hell we look miles off it. That starting 11 is far too one paced and lacking in invention.

To be expected today when we weren't allowed to use 'Multiiball'.

[Ian.]

Two years running we haven’t lost the opening game of the season. I’ll take that!

[NorthYvillan]

Watkins was especially shit.

Of course he was

Other than get caught offside, lose the ball and have one shot straight at the keeper what did he do?

A lot more than Rogers

[brontebilly]

Didn't see the game, how did our 50m man get on in midfield? Making only one sub seems odd.