Aston Villa vs Newcastle pre-match thread

[brontebilly]

I do think that the difference here is that most people want Mings and Pau to be good. I suspect a few would rather Pau does badly to prove their point. I imagine had Pau done what Mings did against Bournemouth (a key game in the business end), a few would be citing it as lazy defending and lucky not to be a red card.

Mings was a bit reckless alright and not shy about stepping over the line when physical play is required. I prefer that than the alternative as seen at Wembley with our two center halves getting bullied beyond belief. Torres was awful when he came on for Mings that day at Bournemouth as it turned out. Nobody wants to see any player be awful to prove a point, that's just crazy talk. We all want the team to be successful.

I just hope we see a much better Torres this season, he's had the summer to assess his game and I'm expecting he has addressed a few things.. I'm not expecting Mings like dominance in duels but I am expecting him to be a bit braver in possession and with Konsa to push that defensive line higher up the pitch. Konsa too, absolutely no blaming others for his own ineptitude. Focus on what he is good at, reading danger and getting forwards to take him on on the grass. Also braver in the air, at least block the forward from getting to it.

Individually and collectively both need to improve a lot from last season.

[Somniloquism]

Mings was a bit reckless alright and not shy about stepping over the line when physical play is required. I prefer that than the alternative as seen at Wembley with our two center halves getting bullied beyond belief. Torres was awful when he came on for Mings that day at Bournemouth as it turned out. Nobody wants to see any player be awful to prove a point, that's just crazy talk. We all want the team to be successful.

No, he wasn't when he came on. Pau was on a full 10 mins with Bournemouth having the exact same amount of chances in those 10 mins they had the 70 before, none. Of course when Ramsey was sent off, a midfielder on the same side of the field as Pau so less protection against runners that side, then he was getting caught. You strangely always omit that whenever you discuss that day for some reason.

[eamonn]

The Torres v Mings thing is infecting multiple threads. Can it please just have its own corner for folk to slog it out?

[PaulTheVillan]

4-1 win



Bizot

Cash
Konsa
Mings
Digne

Kamara
McGinn

Malen
Tielemans
Rogers

Watkins

[VillaTim]

I do think that the difference here is that most people want Mings and Pau to be good. I suspect a few would rather Pau does badly to prove their point. I imagine had Pau done what Mings did against Bournemouth (a key game in the business end), a few would be citing it as lazy defending and lucky not to be a red card.

 Torres was awful when he came on for Mings that day at Bournemouth as it turned out.

Yep, was bloody awful. Cash bailed him out big time

[PeterWithesShin]

On the opening day in the Premier League, we currently have a record of 10 wins, 11 defeats, and eight draws.

This is only the second time since Milner's last game that we've started a PL season with a home game.

[Meanwood Villa]

On the opening day in the Premier League, we currently have a record of 10 wins, 11 defeats, and eight draws.

This is only the second time since Milner's last game that we've started a PL season with a home game.

Was the other time in Covid?

[PeterWithesShin]

Yep, Sheff Utd 20/21.

[ADVILLAFAN]

Yep, Sheff Utd 20/21.

That was a hard-fought win. Think Martinez saved a penalty on debut and they packed the defence with big lads.

[RamboandBruno]

The anti Pau stuff is just like being consistently hit over the head with a brick. I love big Ty for everything he has given us and hopefully will still give us, but friendly or not, if Pau had put in a performance like Mings did against Marseille, some posters would of been in permanent meltdown, or if Pau had God forbid picked up the ball in the box in a key European game.
I know this is a discussion forum but it would be great if some of us could choose Torres in our starting 11s some weeks, without the same moronic shit spouted by Tim over and over.

Like the moronic shit you post over and over . Mings is the better defender it's clear . Torres might be a better passer and even that's debatable now .

Fair play Tim, we can be moronic together. I’ll obviously be on the right side the moronic soectrum.

[Demitri_C]

I like Mings AND I like Pau. I’m not the sort of fan that has to have someone they don’t like. I think overall Pau adds more to how we play and it appears that our manager does too.

So the only compromise  is play both 😂

I would have liked us to experiment that in a friendly just to see how a pau mings cb pairing would have done despite  them both being left sided cbs

[cdbearsfan]

It does seem odd that we won't even try them together in a friendly. I reckon Unai just enjoys the arguments on here.

[PeterWithesShin]

I reckon much like CD is actually AD joshing us, Bronte is actually Unai doing it for shits and giggles.

[cdbearsfan]

If we ever see a team sheet with a load of 3/10s written next to it after Villa have just won, he'll be rumbled.

[Somniloquism]

Why do you think we see him straight on the laptop after a game.