Aston Villa vs Newcastle pre-match thread

[villadelph]

You just have to look at the amount of goals we concede when he plays to know he’s not good enough.

When he plays, the burden is on the attackers to score more than we let in.

Cost us in the big games last season , might be Emery's biggest blind spot , though he has started to acknowledge the issue at least .

Clean sheet against Bayern and the winning assist into Duran.. idk, might not be a big game for some.

2-0 against Bologna, 0-0 against Juve..

[VillaTim]

You just have to look at the amount of goals we concede when he plays to know he’s not good enough.

When he plays, the burden is on the attackers to score more than we let in.

Cost us in the big games last season , might be Emery's biggest blind spot , though he has started to acknowledge the issue at least .

Clean sheet against Bayern and the winning assist into Duran.. idk, might not be a big game for some.

Group stages vs straight KO is different gravy in fairness. Anyway i think UE will play him Saturday, no Isak, no nr 9 in effect :

Bizot
Cash Konsa Torres Digne
Kamara Onana
Tielemans Mcginn
Watkins Bailey

[Flamingo Lane]

Is Rogers injured?

[Clive W]

Anyone else getting the “OOPS something went wrong “ message when trying to retrieve tickets from the app?

[RamboandBruno]

The anti Pau stuff is just like being consistently hit over the head with a brick. I love big Ty for everything he has given us and hopefully will still give us, but friendly or not, if Pau had put in a performance like Mings did against Marseille, some posters would of been in permanent meltdown, or if Pau had God forbid picked up the ball in the box in a key European game.
I know this is a discussion forum but it would be great if some of us could choose Torres in our starting 11s some weeks, without the same moronic shit spouted by Tim over and over.

[Somniloquism]

Obviously friendlies, different partnerships, different midfield and different opposition players, but I'm pretty sure we have let in alot more goals with Mings playing then Torres in all those matches.

[brontebilly]

You just have to look at the amount of goals we concede when he plays to know he’s not good enough.

When he plays, the burden is on the attackers to score more than we let in.

Cost us in the big games last season , might be Emery's biggest blind spot , though he has started to acknowledge the issue at least .

Clean sheet against Bayern and the winning assist into Duran.. idk, might not be a big game for some.

2-0 against Bologna, 0-0 against Juve..

Those two were nothing games (Bologna and Juve), Juve didn't have a fit forward. Even Carlos seemed somewhat competent that night.

I think the fact Mings and Torres are such different types of players generates the debate.

[VillaTim]

The anti Pau stuff is just like being consistently hit over the head with a brick. I love big Ty for everything he has given us and hopefully will still give us, but friendly or not, if Pau had put in a performance like Mings did against Marseille, some posters would of been in permanent meltdown, or if Pau had God forbid picked up the ball in the box in a key European game.
I know this is a discussion forum but it would be great if some of us could choose Torres in our starting 11s some weeks, without the same moronic shit spouted by Tim over and over.

Like the moronic shit you post over and over . Mings is the better defender it's clear . Torres might be a better passer and even that's debatable now .

[villadelph]

You just have to look at the amount of goals we concede when he plays to know he’s not good enough.

When he plays, the burden is on the attackers to score more than we let in.

Cost us in the big games last season , might be Emery's biggest blind spot , though he has started to acknowledge the issue at least .

Clean sheet against Bayern and the winning assist into Duran.. idk, might not be a big game for some.

2-0 against Bologna, 0-0 against Juve..

Those two were nothing games (Bologna and Juve), Juve didn't have a fit forward. Even Carlos seemed somewhat competent that night.

I think the fact Mings and Torres are such different types of players generates the debate.

That’s why I qualified it as “not a big game for some.” The “supporters” who come on here and say that Champions League matches, especially with the new format, aren’t big games. Typical though.. shit on everything, appreciate nothing.

I love Ty as much as the next, but he can’t pull off a quarter of the passes that Pau is capable of. At the same token, Torres can’t handle the physicality and pace of some of the league’s best forwards. We’re lucky to have both. People on this forum need to realize that shitting on one of them doesn’t win you any prizes. They’re both Villa and we’re lucky to have both at our disposal.

[VillaTim]

You just have to look at the amount of goals we concede when he plays to know he’s not good enough.

When he plays, the burden is on the attackers to score more than we let in.

Cost us in the big games last season , might be Emery's biggest blind spot , though he has started to acknowledge the issue at least .

Clean sheet against Bayern and the winning assist into Duran.. idk, might not be a big game for some.

2-0 against Bologna, 0-0 against Juve..

Those two were nothing games (Bologna and Juve), Juve didn't have a fit forward. Even Carlos seemed somewhat competent that night.

I think the fact Mings and Torres are such different types of players generates the debate.

That’s why I qualified it as “not a big game for some.” The “supporters” who come on here and say that Champions League matches, especially with the new format, aren’t big games. Typical though.. shit on everything, appreciate nothing.

I love Ty as much as the next, but he can’t pull off a quarter of the passes that Pau is capable of. At the same token, Torres can’t handle the physicality and pace of some of the league’s best forwards. We’re lucky to have both. People on this forum need to realize that shitting on one of them doesn’t win you any prizes. They’re both Villa and we’re lucky to have both at our disposal.

Exactly horses for courses as I said many times . I'd play Torres Saturday for example as Newcastle don't have a number 9 it's a perfect fit for him .

[ADVILLAFAN]

Is Rogers injured?

Think we are hopeful he will be able to play against Newcastle.

[VillaTim]

Is Rogers injured?

Think we are hopeful he will be able to play against Newcastle.

Unlikely, bench at best but I suspect he's out .

[Percy McCarthy]

As I’ve been saying for years, it’s not the individuals but the partnership that is/was the main thing. Konsa has been great with Mings. When Konsa is partnered with Pau, neither dominates, which I suspect is why Carlos/Pau were much better than Konsa/Pau. (Obviously I’m not going to give any credence to brontebilly’s long-standing almost religious belief that better defences concede more goals - the player ratings that everyone ridicules are enough to dismiss his bizarre ramblings).

It’s all clearly evident in results of football matches in which Aston Villa play. These are dismissed as ‘stats’ by people whose opinions are not backed up by results of football matches in which Aston Villa play, but it is clearly evident nevertheless.