Quote from: Brazilian Villain on November 16, 2025, 05:24:23 PMAgree with that. Wow, just watched it on RTE2+1. Moments like that aren't supposed to happen to Ireland, glorious failure is more our thing. If it wasn't for that late Portugal winner in Lisbon, we'd have topped the group. But I'll settle for the play-offs. I think ROI would also have needed to find another 10 goals from somewhere.
Agree with that. Wow, just watched it on RTE2+1. Moments like that aren't supposed to happen to Ireland, glorious failure is more our thing. If it wasn't for that late Portugal winner in Lisbon, we'd have topped the group. But I'll settle for the play-offs.
Don't head-to-head results trump goal difference?
Quote from: Dave on November 16, 2025, 05:22:22 PMQuote from: Nev on November 16, 2025, 05:15:09 PMQuote from: cdbearsfan on November 16, 2025, 04:55:07 PMThey're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.My point isn't about tonight but about reputation before form in tournaments that has hamstrung England for generations. If it's Bellingham V Rogers, pick the player in form.Bellingham has been generally excellent for Real Madrid since coming back from injury and is probably in better "form" than Rogers is. If it were being done on form, Bellingham should probably have been in instead of Rogers against Serbia.So he deserves his place in the side now then. But, as one pundit on 5Live put it earlier "he has got to be in the squad and team for the USA". Which disregards the next 7 months in favour of who he is.
Quote from: Nev on November 16, 2025, 05:15:09 PMQuote from: cdbearsfan on November 16, 2025, 04:55:07 PMThey're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.My point isn't about tonight but about reputation before form in tournaments that has hamstrung England for generations. If it's Bellingham V Rogers, pick the player in form.Bellingham has been generally excellent for Real Madrid since coming back from injury and is probably in better "form" than Rogers is. If it were being done on form, Bellingham should probably have been in instead of Rogers against Serbia.
Quote from: cdbearsfan on November 16, 2025, 04:55:07 PMThey're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.My point isn't about tonight but about reputation before form in tournaments that has hamstrung England for generations. If it's Bellingham V Rogers, pick the player in form.
They're already through so rotating a bit. Seems an odd thing to get angry about. Quite happy for Konsa and Rogers to get nowhere near the pitch today and come back to Bodymoor safe and sound.
Rogers would have scored that.
Just worked out Bellingham's shtick: run into players,fall over,claim free kick.
Quote from: Mister E on November 16, 2025, 05:31:49 PMBellingham has been gash so farThought that too.
Bellingham has been gash so far