Europa League 2025-26

[PeterWithesShin]

"Jews aren't safe in Birmingham!' GB News

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1900547667169331

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What happened in the ‘Dam:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15KN1e7sy2m/?mibextid=wwXIfr

The Independent Advisor to the Government on antisemitism, John Mann (who did a 3 day on the ground in the Dam investigation) holds a different view. Suggests his report has been ignored and that this decision isn't based on Mayoral Advice from Amsterdam as indicated.

Ah yes, John Mann who is, of course, famously impartial when it comes to anti-semitism and will focus entirely on the facts.

Anyone have a link to his report on Amsterdam?

It hasn't been publicised so I was curious about the critique of something not read. An FOI to BCC might help.

[Monty]

I'm sure you'd be just as equanimous (equanimitous? equanimitive?) were the report authored by, say, Chris Williamson.

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I'm sure you'd be just as equanimous (equanimitous? equanimitive?) were the report authored by, say, Chris Williamson.

I don't need to defend Labour Peers, but I think that's a touch unkind to Mann.

[cdbearsfan]

This is going to get overturned. If a single Muslim or, indeed, any Brummie or travelling Villa fan gets hurt as a result, who will take the blame?

[Monty]

I'm sure you'd be just as equanimous (equanimitous? equanimitive?) were the report authored by, say, Chris Williamson.

I don't need to defend Labour Peers, but I think that's a touch unkind to Mann.

Only a touch.

[Drummond]

This is going to get overturned. If a single Muslim or, indeed, any Brummie or travelling Villa fan gets hurt as a result, who will take the blame?

WMP.

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This is going to get overturned. If a single Muslim or, indeed, any Brummie or travelling Villa fan gets hurt as a result, who will take the blame?

Depends on the manner of the injury sustained. Presumably if there is a PL claim, then BCC. If its private land then the occupier. If there is violence then the perpetrator. What else would you expect?

[aldridgeboy]

Police and Crime  Commissioner has asked for a review.

[artvandelay]

Don't think it's been mentioned but if anyone's looking for or wondering about precedent, away fans were banned at Maccabi's last home match

https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/029d-1ed142ba75a4-1ac02341efa2-1000--statement-on-maccabi-tel-aviv-vs-gnk-dinamo/

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Jack Angelides is the CEO of Maccabi Tel Aviv. This morning, he tells the BBC that Aston Villa has been relaying the position of the police to the Israeli club.

"I can't say they have taken any particular position," Angelides tells BBC Radio 4's Today programme. "They have just been keeping us up to date."

Angelides says he would have expected over 1,000 Maccabi Tel Aviv fans to attend the match.

"To be frank, it's met with some dismay about what this potentially is signalling," he says, when the topic comes to the fans ban.

He says he understands the reason the authorities may not be able to protect the fans. But he adds: "I do think this is an extremely important moment because of what it signifies. I don't use this term lightly but people ask: 'what does antisemitism look like?'"

"And it's often manifested as part of a process - a process in other words small events leading up to something that's more," he says.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cx204j7x4pqt

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1000 fans? If they had 3000 in Amsterdam then we would be looking at 3 arrests and 1 Israeli suffering a minor injury pro rata.
16 arrests for locals and 0 injuries.

When we say this isn't the derby, we're absolutely right.

[AV82EC]

1000 fans? If they had 3000 in Amsterdam then we would be looking at 3 arrests and 1 Israeli suffering a minor injury pro rata.
16 arrests for locals and 0 injuries.

When we say this isn't the derby, we're absolutely right.

I'd hazard a guess the nutters in their support would be more prevalent in the 1000 tbh so a straight comparison doesnt necessarily compute.

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1000 fans? If they had 3000 in Amsterdam then we would be looking at 3 arrests and 1 Israeli suffering a minor injury pro rata.
16 arrests for locals and 0 injuries.

When we say this isn't the derby, we're absolutely right.

I'd hazard a guess the nutters in their support would be more prevalent in the 1000 tbh so a straight comparison doesnt necessarily compute.

Possibly. But 10 arrests and 5 injuries? 49 arrests and 0 injuries? Amsterdam is a much trickier place to police with is layout.

[paul_e]

What happened in the ‘Dam:

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/15KN1e7sy2m/?mibextid=wwXIfr

The Independent Advisor to the Government on antisemitism, John Mann (who did a 3 day on the ground in the Dam investigation) holds a different view. Suggests his report has been ignored and that this decision isn't based on Mayoral Advice from Amsterdam as indicated.

Ah yes, John Mann who is, of course, famously impartial when it comes to anti-semitism and will focus entirely on the facts.

Which facts in his report didn't you agree with?

What a strange thing to ask, for a bunch of reasons but most importantly why would you watch a video like that, which clearly shows horrific racist chanting from MTA fans, and decide to go with another classic bit of Ads deflection.

How about, instead of your normal bullshit, you explain why you think it would be good for anyone to have those scenes replayed in Aston and why you're clearly siding with the people portraying those fans as victims.