Manchester Utd v Aston Villa Post-Match Thread

[cdbearsfan]

On the bright side, I thought our kit looked nice.

Fuck that. Burn it.

[taylorsworkrate]

If our players hadn't played like utterly pathetic ****** today, we wouldn't be talking about a refereeing error.

Absolute frauds to a man today

That’s how I feel.
The players and manager have been handed a ‘get out of jail free’ card. THEY should be held to account for that shitshow.

Absolutely. In many way's this group of ****** have been bailed out by the contrevorsy today.

To turn up and "perform" how they have today in such a big game? Fuck them.

Bit much chaps. You can be disappointed with the performance, but to call the players ****** is too far.
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If our players hadn't played like utterly pathetic ****** today, we wouldn't be talking about a refereeing error.

Absolute frauds to a man today

That’s how I feel.
The players and manager have been handed a ‘get out of jail free’ card. THEY should be held to account for that shitshow.

Absolutely. In many way's this group of ****** have been bailed out by the contrevorsy today.

To turn up and "perform" how they have today in such a big game? Fuck them.

Bit much chaps. You can be disappointed with the performance, but to call the players ****** is too far.

In general I completely agree. To turn up today and put in that effort though?

No leaders, no fight

[SamTheMouse]

It's insanely frustrating, but the referee's human and made a mistake. I imagine he's feeling pretty shit this evening.

The club's right that he shouldn't have been in that position and a more experienced official was required. The statement seems entirely reasonable.

Anyway, I'm choosing to break the habit of a lifetime and look on the bright side. Already looking forward to winning the Europa League next year.

[The Edge]

Off the top of my head I remember these instances of us being cheated or robbed against these fukkers.
1. Vidic not being sent off at Wembley.
2. Bruno winning a penalty for falling over clutching his leg after stamping on Konsas foot.
3. A goal disallowed in the cup at their place a couple of years ago when they looked for a reason to disallow the goal but couldn't find one so they kept going back until they eventually found something.
4. Today.
I'm sure there's many more and I'd love someone to put a video together that proves what a cheating low life football club they actually are. I hate them with every fibre of my being.

[andyh]

You are obviously a very nice person Samthemouse.

I hope the ref feels worse than shit tonight.

[itbrvilla]

Off the top of my head I remember these instances of us being cheated or robbed against these fukkers.
1. Vidic not being sent off at Wembley.
2. Bruno winning a penalty for falling over clutching his leg after stamping on Konsas foot.
3. A goal disallowed in the cup at their place a couple of years ago when they looked for a reason to disallow the goal but couldn't find one so they kept going back until they eventually found something.
4. Today.
I'm sure there's many more and I'd love someone to put a video together that proves what a cheating low life football club they actually are. I hate them with every fibre of my being.

1. We didn't manage a shot on target in that match or the next 2 Wembley days out.

[aj2k77]

Fernandes I think it was kicking Konsa at Villa Park, going down and getting a pen. The list is endless.

[Beard82]

It's insanely frustrating, but the referee's human and made a mistake. I imagine he's feeling pretty shit this evening.

The club's right that he shouldn't have been in that position and a more experienced official was required. The statement seems entirely reasonable.

Anyway, I'm choosing to break the habit of a lifetime and look on the bright side. Already looking forward to winning the Europa League next year.

Im sure he is - but it cost us odd 50m.  And forces us to change our strategy to have to accomedate for that loss.  When the PL interwine it in this way - there own staff cant fuck up like that

[The Edge]

Fernandes I think it was kicking Konsa at Villa Park, going down and getting a pen. The list is endless.

Yeah I put Bruno. It's the same player.

[cdbearsfan]

I hate both of them.

[brontebilly]

If it's the one I'm thinking of they were level to the naked eye but as he was making an attempt to play the ball at most it'd have been a yellow card, which can't be given on review (for some reason). In much the same vein the Diallo foul on Onana was 100% a yellow card but the ref didn't give it so couldn't be checked. Given Diallo then got a yellow 25mins later before going on to score the opener there's a fair argument that he was lucky to be on the pitch to score it.

That only works if in the box and a penalty was also given. If outside the box it is a red card still if a DOGSO. However as I mentioned it might have fallen down the cracks of VAR options as maybe it needs the ref to blow for the foul for it to be reviewed for a red, similar to the FA Cup one last week.

You misunderstand me, I'm not talking double jeopardy here, I'm saying it wasn't enough to be a red card, he made a genuine attempt at the bal land at most was a little clumsy. As it was given offside they didn't really show many angles of it but it might not even have been a foul. I don't think we can have many complaints with that one, or with the Emi sending off.

The decisions I'm not happy with are not booking Diallo for going studs up into Onana, blowing up too early for Rogers 'goal' and giving them a very soft penalty that Diallo clearly played for by dangling out a leg where Maatsen couldn't really do much to avoid it.

Maatsen could have done plenty to avoid it.

https://www.skysports.com/football/video/11095/13374575/manchester-united-2-0-aston-villa-premier-league-highlights

2:30ish - watch it again, explain where else he's supposed to put his foot, he never even looks towards where Diallo's feet are, he's just trying to slow himself so he doesn't barge into him.

Eh, but he should be looking where his feet are, this is elite level football. He shouldn't be getting his foot anywhere near the back of your man's ankle or giving him any excuse to go down. Jockey him and nudge him out to where the ball is going. There isn't even a debate there, it's a blatant foul inside the box on a player that wasn't even in full control of the ball. That's how bad the defending is. 

[The Edge]

Off the top of my head I remember these instances of us being cheated or robbed against these fukkers.
1. Vidic not being sent off at Wembley.
2. Bruno winning a penalty for falling over clutching his leg after stamping on Konsas foot.
3. A goal disallowed in the cup at their place a couple of years ago when they looked for a reason to disallow the goal but couldn't find one so they kept going back until they eventually found something.
4. Today.
I'm sure there's many more and I'd love someone to put a video together that proves what a cheating low life football club they actually are. I hate them with every fibre of my being.

1. We didn't manage a shot on target in that match or the next 2 Wembley days out.

That makes it OK does it? And are you sure we played 3 matches at Wembley and never had a shot on target?

[enigma]

I want Unai to spend the summer studying the 3-4-3 formation and figure out why he always struggles against it.

[The Edge]

I hate both of them.

Me too.

[aj2k77]

Fernandes I think it was kicking Konsa at Villa Park, going down and getting a pen. The list is endless.

Yeah I put Bruno. It's the same player.

I only know him as Fernandes or Rat face, sorry.