Aston Villa v Palace Post-Match Thread

[Walmley_Villa]

Thought I’d wait to post reflections. Sadly wrong team, again following City. After such a display v a very good Newcastle I don’t know why Unai didn’t just let the Hounds loose again. Olly and Maathsen were so good v Newcastle and Onana’s cameo to
Not involve them Tuesday and yesterday (I think Rashford would have started if fit) was not great. We know how Palace play and seemed to have learnt nothing. Mings had to start and lead from the back, Pau looked so weak. Youri and Roger’s are running on empty and Rogers on the right has never worked. Fair play to Bailey who I often criticise and Maathsen when they can on.

I think seeing the team sheet we all feared the worst and that hit the support imo plus the bloody drum which was all I could hear at the front of the top row behind the goal.

[Small Rodent]

Didn’t turn up. Unacceptable. Had a great day out apart from the 90 minutes football.

[Flamingo Lane]

Looking elsewhere and seems there were problems from kick off with the issue being those who wanted to stand and those who wanted to sit and watch the game so we need to sort that out for future visits and maybe identify sections and sell tickets directly for fans who want to stand.

Yes, I was in Block 104, 20 rows back, bang in line with the 18 yard line, with a very fine view of the entire pitch, and I had not anticipated having to stand through the entire game, which became necessary once those in approximately Row 10 decided that they were going to stand. It didn't affect me personally overly much (or my enjoyment of the game, such as it was), but I really felt for the family of four to my left, the mum and dad having to stand throughout the game, while doing their best to hold up their two young children. Even if we'd won the game, these people would have been left wishing they had stayed at home and watched the game on tv.

[Chris Smith]

Looking elsewhere and seems there were problems from kick off with the issue being those who wanted to stand and those who wanted to sit and watch the game so we need to sort that out for future visits and maybe identify sections and sell tickets directly for fans who want to stand.

Yes, I was in Block 104, 20 rows back, bang in line with the 18 yard line, with a very fine view of the entire pitch, and I had not anticipated having to stand through the entire game, which became necessary once those in approximately Row 10 decided that they were going to stand. It didn't affect me personally overly much (or my enjoyment of the game, such as it was), but I really felt for the family of four to my left, the mum and dad having to stand throughout the game, while doing their best to hold up their two young children. Even if we'd won the game, these people would have been left wishing they had stayed at home and watched the game on tv.

At Villa Park in the stands behind the goal standing is taken for granted at every game so it’s hardly a surprise that is what happened yesterday. There were plenty of other sections where those with kids could choose to sit, as happened with a couple of groups on our minibus.

[Clampy]

I can kind of understand people who feel the need to stand up behind the goal. We were in block 519 upstairs and there were a scattered few standing up and there wasn't really any need to.
 

[Flamingo Lane]

As I said (this is in response to Chris Smith above), we  were in line with the 18 yard line, not behind the goal. I know people stand in the Holte End.

[VillaTim]

The flares was a joke . Could barely see the pitch first 10 mins.

As for the HT DJ , whilst easy on the eye she played some rubbish .

[VillaTim]

You also have the issue that Mings, by his own admission, is playing through pain in every game. And also is a mistake a game himself and has poor distribution, paticularly when playing XI men behind the ball.

We’ve won the last eight games that Tyrone Mings has started, are unbeaten in the last eleven and only lost one in the last eighteen.

That’s not bad for a player who makes a mistake a game, or as I see it, an error leading to a goal every 2,340 minutes, or 26 games.

Then again, as billybronte would have it, facts prove nothing.

Not playing Mings has cost us the ECL run and now the FA Cup run . Absolute lunacy from Emery .

[Des Little]

As an aside, how can a whole bunch of pyrotechnics be allowed into the ground through security? And who decides that it is in order for an FA Cup Semi Final to be played against the background noise of organised and continuous drumming?

Agreed on the flares, not sure how they managed that.

As for their support, I thought it was magnificent.
Fair play to them

Agreed. I was sat on half way and they completely drowned us out. Organised or not, they made it like a home game for them, credit where it’s due.

[Brend'Watkins]

I was under the impression that Pyrotechnics weren’t allowed at football matches? I had no issue with them as such but that drum. FFS!

[Ads]

Drums are for ******. Come on City, smash those Nigel wankers.

[john e]

We were outplayed on the pitch and out sung in the stands, and that’s the first time that’s ever happened at Wembley
Even their flags and Tifo were better than ours, not that it’s of much importance

they were just too powerful for us as it has been in every game between Unai and Glasner,
They are very similar to Forest in the way they play. You’re not going to play silky football through them so you have to match them up physically and mentally which we failed to do

Having said all that there’s not many games if any way where you can say every single starting Villa player had an off day and every single opposition player produced a 9 out of 10 performance
Just our luck for it to happen in the semi-final of the FA Cup which we haven’t won in near on 60 bloody years

[Ads]

For me I'd have gone with pace and power to trap their wing backs. Seeing Morgan and McGinn fold to create a six first half was pathetic stuff.

Marlen wide, Ramsey wide, Rogers close to Ollie to bludgeon through the middle, Cash and Maatsen given licence to overload and trap one of the wing backs, with an energetic press that we witnessed 7 days ago. Run the inferior ****** off the park. But no.

[Nunkin1965]

Didn’t turn up. Unacceptable. Had a great day out apart from the 90 minutes football.

Same here.
Had a great day. Travel in and out of London was spot on.
Baffling team selection and I wondered why we just didn't have a real good go at Palace.
Surely Maatsen & Ramsey on the left would have caused so many more problems.
Such a wasted opportunity for me.

[Mister E]

For me I'd have gone with pace and power to trap their wing backs. Seeing Morgan and McGinn fold to create a six first half was pathetic stuff.
Marlen wide, Ramsey wide, Rogers close to Ollie to bludgeon through the middle, Cash and Maatsen given licence to overload and trap one of the wing backs, with an energetic press that we witnessed 7 days ago. Run the inferior ****** off the park. But no.

Glasner didn't out-think Unai, they played exactly as you'd expect. Unai out-thought Unai.

Bang on; you've both summed it up very succinctly.
Playing it through the middle (whilst Watkins was plying his trade on the left throughout the first half) and sitting deeper than usual just meant CP could bring Guehi and Lacroix further forward on their left to flood the MF. Kamara's soft yellow in the first 15 meant he was less effective than was expected. Sarr played a blinder, coming inside to mark Tielemans when we had the ball at the back.
Glasner once again got it right .... but their set-up was pretty predictable, which makes our inability to tactically manage it even more strange.