Aston Villa v Palace Post-Match Thread

[PeterWithe]

It was Sarr.

[olaftab]

Fear it's a mix of stubbornness and favouritism getting the better of Emery . Starting Torres over Mings was idiotic and suicidal.
Time to move Torres along while he still has some book value .

Absolute rubbish.

[martin o`who??]

Now the alcohol has worn off and the cold light of day has set in i just feel numb at how bad we were. Going out of both cups to Barcapalace is galling but its the nature of the defeats thats hard to swallow. Glasner has got Unai by the throat and it shows. Torres should not have started and does seem to be a liability at times. We are increasingly ponderous playing out from the back and it gives the opposition time to drop back and make us play through them - its fair to say our best moments this season are when we go early and catch teams upfield but it never even looked likely yesterday. Palace were worth every goal and we actually got off lightly, the disallowed one should have stood i thought. Unai has got a lot of credit in the bank but he definitely used some of it yesterday.

[The Edge]

I wanted Mings and Onana to start as a buffer to their physicality.

It wasn't their physicality that did us.

It had a lot to do with it imo. Couldn't handle Mateta he was everywhere. It wasn't just physicality though. We seemed to lack energy and they had bundles of it. Roger's has looked like he's dragging a tyre for the last few games. Ramsey would have been a far better option.

[martin o`who??]

I wanted Mings and Onana to start as a buffer to their physicality.

It wasn't their physicality that did us.

They didnt exactly roll over for us.

[brontebilly]

I wanted Mings and Onana to start as a buffer to their physicality.

Onana is shit though and hardly got a kick at Citeh during the week. The Mings decision was simply unfathomable.

[RamboandBruno]

A bit disappointed with McGinns post match interview.
Don’t tell us we have 4 massive games coming up when you have just failed to raise your game in one of the most important matches for years.
Don’t say we can’t sulk for too long.
Read the room, feel the pain, disappointment and fury that the fans are feeling.

Funny that as I saw it totally other way round. He was trying to lift us.

I agree he was being a captain, and to be fair on the pitch, probably the only one to come out with any credit in that first half.
Im really not sure what else he could of said. We have gor 4 games left and we do need to try and win them.

I feel fooking empty this morning, tired, slightly hungover, but just miserable. Football and Villa is a passion and escapism from the shite of life and a major element of that vanished yesterday and whats worse with such a tepid performance.

I was still in the boxpark when the team sheet came out and I was surprised there was no Mings and Ramsey, but it wasn’t a major shock. It was a shock that Rashford wasn’t on the bench, I do feel he would off at least given Palace something else to think about alongside Bailey, who did ok.

It is with hindsight that I think we should off started Ramsey and Mastsen to try and break through their lines.

The whole Torres/Mings debate is a bit of a side issue for me in terms of yesterdays game. The biggest is issue is we never really laid a glove on them and never looked like doing so at any stage of the game.

[lukey27]

People commenting that we've thrown it or bottled it or have greater priorities seem to have conveniently forgotten that we've thrown a number of away performances in like this, this season. I'd argue that this passive, anaemic display is more the norm than the exception.

Palace, Spurs, Chelsea all come to mind but we turned in v similar non performances in every European away game bar Leipzig when they bizarrely pressed us high.

I'm sure they know that this is a major stumbling block to success and I'd hope we can seriously address in the summer as Bournemouth could easily do the same as Palace did yesterday, in a few weeks.

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Supporting Aston Villa is like having a fluffer for a non existent porn film; they get you going but there's no one there to finish you off.

[Ads]

When we're bad, we're oh shit that's my tyre accelerating past me level of wheels coming off.

[andyh]

After spectacularly fucking up yesterday, I have no confidence we can raise ourselves to win the last 4 games of the season.

If we do, and we squeak CL qualification then it will go some way to redemption.

I’m not even sure that winning all 4 will get in anyway.

[pauliewalnuts]

People commenting that we've thrown it or bottled it or have greater priorities seem to have conveniently forgotten that we've thrown a number of away performances in like this, this season. I'd argue that this passive, anaemic display is more the norm than the exception.

Palace, Spurs, Chelsea all come to mind but we turned in v similar non performances in every European away game bar Leipzig when they bizarrely pressed us high.

I think that's a good point, and - putting aside for now any reasons for it - that's one of the differences between last year and this in terms of the league. Some of the great away results last year, were not there this year and here we are, in seventh as a result.

[PeterWithe]

I've got no intention of watching the whole game again but there at the time, I didn't think Mateta played particularly well, he wasn't the threat against Torres I'd feared, it was elsewhere we lost the game.

[Steve67]

After spectacularly fucking up yesterday, I have no confidence we can raise ourselves to win the last 4 games of the season.

If we do, and we squeak CL qualification then it will go some way to redemption.

I’m not even sure that winning all 4 will get in anyway.

Some of the contenders have to play each other and Chelsea have a tough run in and a Europa Final to think about.  Might help us I hope.

[Sexual Ealing]

I've got no intention of watching the whole game again but there at the time, I didn't think Mateta played particularly well, he wasn't the threat against Torres I'd feared, it was elsewhere we lost the game.

He played a fucking blinder on the telly.