Aston Villa v Palace Post-Match Thread

[taylorsworkrate]

Suddenly turned into a pretty crap season

[TopDeck113]

The end of the season can't now come fast enough.  We might scrape Europa League, but the silverware-zone that is Villa Park will be even worse with not only Newcastle winning their first trophy since The Beatles split, but you just know now that Arsenal and Man U/Spurs will win their European competitions.  Liverpool and probably Man C with the remaining two domestic trophies. 

[Ian.]

Ian Maatsen, Ramsey and Mings should have started this one.

However those on the pitch were too easily beaten and didn’t seem to get the importance of the game. We gave the ball away too cheaply and didn’t seem to want it as much as them.

[caster troy]

I’m devastated. Full squad available apart from one loanee and we were destroyed. What a waste of a season this is turning out to be.

[aj2k77]

36 conceded in 36 games since Emery took over for Mings. 71 in 47 for Torres. Massive discrepancy. I don't care if you can pass. You aren't worth 24 extra goals conceded.

[Mellin]

All awful, except SJM, Bailey and (first half) Ollie. I understand the 'Konsa likes playing with Mings" stat, but he was awful.

They must love playing us. I hope they get absolutely ruined in the final.

For me, to be clear, Konsa is just as culpable as Torres. Neither take control. If Mings hides some of Konsa's weaknesses then that is a problem. I think he does.

I don’t see it like that. Since I started going, there have been numerous centre-back partnerships where one has been powerful and dominant, one a bit more agile and nimble on their feet.

Chris Nichol and Ian Ross then Leighton Phillips; McNaught/Evans, Teale/God, Laursen and whoever he played with, Mings/Konsa. A good partnership DOES hide weaknesses. Neither Pau nor Konsa are dominant, but they have been good with a physical centre-back alongside them.

Let me put it another way, as I agree with what you're saying...I think Torres is a better player than Konsa. If Torres is as intelligent a player as people like to claim, he can learn to play right-sided centre half. Mings should be a lock.

[Chip Butty 111]

On the train home, not sure what I have just seen tbh. Can't think of one player who turned up in any fashion. Beyond a horrible one, Palace simply pounced on our mistakes trying to play out and buried us. As bad as anything I can remember. Funeralled like a Pope.

[Mellin]

36 conceded in 36 games since Emery took over for Mings. 71 in 47 for Torres. Massive discrepancy. I don't care if you can pass. You aren't worth 24 extra goals conceded.

Glad someone has finally done that, as I couldn't be arsed. Please email Emery.

[BoVillan esq]

If its possible to put a shine on a turd, at least we don't have to go and get hammered by Man City in the final, plus lets face it that could have been 5 or even 6 nil, we have to concentrate on the Europa League now, although we may be better placed coming out of all these competitions and going for a complete team rebuild in the summer, terrible performance, made even worse by the fact that this is a team that have beaten us and making a habit out of doing it and we learn nothing after how many defeats? kinds tells you something.

[PaulWinch again]

Out of interest, across those games is the only difference Mings or Torres playing?

[The Edge]

I think it's safe to say we peaked too soon. Shot our bolt with the two magical nights against PSG and Newcastle. A possible Europa league spot is the best we can hope for. I just can't see how Unai can rally them to win the last four games to even give us a chance of a CL spot. The dressing room must be as flat as my misses after she breastfed the twins.

[Mellin]

Out of interest, across those games is the only difference Mings or Torres playing?

Of course not, but if you're discounting data that conclusive then all statistical analysis involving variables needs to be ruled void.

[SaddVillan]

That was our seventh defeat in our last nine Wembley appearances.

[Paul.S]

Offered nothing and got nothing.

[Brazilian Villain]

Out of interest, across those games is the only difference Mings or Torres playing?

It is, when you have an agenda to prove.