Aston Villa v Palace Post-Match Thread

[Cropley10]

I’m 66 now and the wait goes on.

[Hopadop]

All awful, except SJM, Bailey and (first half) Ollie. I understand the 'Konsa likes playing with Mings" stat, but he was awful.

They must love playing us. I hope they get absolutely ruined in the final.

[BC Villain]

The defence were crap, but that doesn't mean we create 0 clear chances.

100%  how much pressure is their on the defence when your forwards look totally incapable at the other end.

[Percy McCarthy]

Sure it's been done to death, but do the stats back up that Pau is a wet fart and we shit the bed with him in defence?

I hate to labour this point - he wasn’t good, Konsa was worse. But he played against Bayern, Juventus, Citeh when we won, nearly all of our run in the first half of last season. The idea that he’s utterly hopeless isn’t true. Get he’s not done well at times of late, but the idea he’s useless just doesn’t stack up.

It does stack up. The proven failure of the Konsa/Pau partnership didn’t play together in the great defensive performances in the CL or last season. It was Carlos/Pau ably supported by Konsa shoring up the right-hand side of the pitch instead of the defensive hologram that is Matty Cash.

As I’ve said many times, Konsa needs Mings, Pau needs a right-footed Mings. Neither of our two today are leaders or organisers.

[PaulWinch again]

Rogers often struggles on the right as he’s easier to crowd out, plus he looks, understandably, knackered. He has been overplayed, as excellent as he has been.

[Steve67]

I think Asensio gets in the way of Rogers progress as the latter has to play out wide to make space.  Unless Asensio is scoring goals, I don't think he offers much else.   Clever movement but needs to be so much more involved.

[TopDeck113]

Asensio a big no from me in the Summer. Massive wages.

After a blistering start, he's been anonymous. Didn't even really put on a display against PSG when he had a point to prove. Signed permanently, he'd just be another Coutinho.

[danno]

Unai keeps doing the same thing against Palace and they lap it up. It’s utterly bewildering when someone so obviously brilliant has such a big blind spot.

I felt that way about Newcastle until about a week ago. We’ve had some shockers against Tottenham recently too.

I didn’t mind Torres starting too much but to not make changes after the penalty miss was desperately disappointing. That was a real opportunity to correct mistakes and we just limped on until it was 2-0.

[PaulWinch again]

It’s not a coincidence that Asensio has been at his best when Rashford played wide left - I don’t get why Unai abandoned that. The pace and directness pulled teams back towards their line and Asensio is brilliant at finding the space.

[Somniloquism]

All awful, except SJM, Bailey and (first half) Ollie. I understand the 'Konsa likes playing with Mings" stat, but he was awful.

They must love playing us. I hope they get absolutely ruined in the final.

He definitely started the WTF was that moments before Torres thought you can pass the ball through a solid object.

[Villa Lew]

Absolutely gutted yes the players looked tired, but there is no excuse for a performance like that. I hope Palace go on to to win it now.

[Mellin]

All awful, except SJM, Bailey and (first half) Ollie. I understand the 'Konsa likes playing with Mings" stat, but he was awful.

They must love playing us. I hope they get absolutely ruined in the final.

For me, to be clear, Konsa is just as culpable as Torres. Neither take control. If Mings hides some of Konsa's weaknesses then that is a problem. I think he does.

[SamTheMouse]

Asensio a big no from me in the Summer. Massive wages.

After a blistering start, he's been anonymous. Didn't even really put on a display against PSG when he had a point to prove. Signed permanently, he'd just be another Coutinho.

He mostly wasn't playing in the middle when he first arrived, he was on the right, coming inside. And looked much more effective.

[Somniloquism]

It’s not a coincidence that Asensio has been at his best when Rashford played wide left - I don’t get why Unai abandoned that. The pace and directness pulled teams back towards their line and Asensio is brilliant at finding the space.

No Mings at the back and no Rashford at all were the uh-oh I don't think we will win this moments.

[PeterWithesShin]

I hope Man City twat them in the final. Bollocks to seeing yet another club win it while i'm still waiting to see us do it.