Dubai

[Sexual Ealing]

What the fuck has Liverpool got to do with Villas trip to Dubai?

Lovejoy did it. Again.

As Telford has stated, people can think of Liverpool having a victim complex without needing to reference tragedies. Context is important.

In fact when I asked Dave to support his assertion this was about tragedies he changed one of my posts and had nothing. Getting angry for the sake of it. Man shouts at cloud territory.

The cup can't come quickly enough.

Oh and topics do often meander away from their original theme,like most conversations, but by all means get angry about that too. Jeez.

You should try taking things on the chin. Don't always look for the perceived slight in what everyone says. It comes across as a bit whiny, bleating, like you're hyper-sensitive about everything. It's not an attractive quality.

[Somniloquism]

When it’s been used in the context of the unlawful killing of 97 innocent people sensitivity is hardly surprising. Perhaps not use it at all in relation to Liverpool? It’s not needed.

But context is the keyword. Not every reference to Liverpool and their followers is a direct or even indirect reference to either the Hillsborough or Hysel deaths. The outrage over a VAR/referee error mentioned earlier is a prime example. Demanding a replay because they were the victims of that decision is a typical Liverpool response.
They had to play their youth team in the FA Cup against us because their 1st team were on a sightseeing trip in Dubai. Victims again. Whinge whinge all the time. Never their fault.

A "big" club response more likely being as Arsenal whinge at every opportunity along with Manure and Man City. I believe I pointed out to Lovejoy at the time that the complaints he was associating just with Liverpool were also associating with multiple other teams and managers. Arsenal fans were demanding a replay after the Brentford match a few months before but no one seems to throw "victim" as a reason to hate that club and fans. Barcelona were demanding a replay against Madrid a few months later, and again no "victim" complaints thrown in that direction. Liverpool do and suddenly it is a viable word to use, even though it has specific connotations when used against them as anyone decent should know.

[Drummond]

I think people banging on about a victim culture in Liverpool do so out of ignorance then, because they certainly don't complain any more than any other club.

The whole victim-culture reference that is made has only really ever surfaced since Hillsborough anyway. In the same way that the bindipper insult is used, it's just a load of bollocks used, in a shit way, to denigrate the oppostion.

I don't like Liverpool at all as a club, I detested them back in the 80s, with the gloryhunter fans, and fawning media and that still exists; however, when virtually everyone is pointing out to you that what you're saying is a load of insulting false bollocks, why persist?

[lovejoy]

What the fuck has Liverpool got to do with Villas trip to Dubai?

Lovejoy did it. Again.

As Telford has stated, people can think of Liverpool having a victim complex without needing to reference tragedies. Context is important.

In fact when I asked Dave to support his assertion this was about tragedies he changed one of my posts and had nothing. Getting angry for the sake of it. Man shouts at cloud territory.

The cup can't come quickly enough.

Oh and topics do often meander away from their original theme,like most conversations, but by all means get angry about that too. Jeez.

You should try taking things on the chin. Don't always look for the perceived slight in what everyone says. It comes across as a bit whiny, bleating, like you're hyper-sensitive about everything. It's not an attractive quality.

Fair enough, although I do feel there is a pile on if any criticism of Liverpool is ever mentioned.

[edgysatsuma89]

Which is only if you mention them being 'victims'. It's not difficulty to understand.

[Dave]

What the fuck has Liverpool got to do with Villas trip to Dubai?

Lovejoy did it. Again.

As Telford has stated, people can think of Liverpool having a victim complex without needing to reference tragedies. Context is important.

In fact when I asked Dave to support his assertion this was about tragedies he changed one of my posts and had nothing. Getting angry for the sake of it. Man shouts at cloud territory.

My apologies, I thought that your "let's not discuss this any further" was one of those things where you were trying to leave the conversation with a tiny bit of dignity intact, so I left it rather than continuing the point.

As you apparently don't, then fair enough.

You're welcome to hold whatever horrible opinions you want, I wasn't making any comment on that. That's been done enough over the last ten years and I imagine that the posts are still there for anyone who cares.

My objection was to your pathetic whinging about "anyone mentioning Liverpool negatively gets a pile on" and "freedom of expression is denied on this forum" like a massive Trumpy baby.

You can tell this is what I was talking about where I say:

I've edited the above to show what "it" actually refers to

[lovejoy]

As you've used quotation marks around "freedom of expression is denied on this forum" you will no doubt have posts to back this up as you clearly aren't someone who feels they just make stuff up right?
I fully respect your right to have an opinion and to post that but I will call it out when it's based on made up quotes which you have been unable support.

[Sexual Ealing]

As you've used quotation marks around "freedom of expression is denied on this forum" you will no doubt have posts to back this up as you clearly aren't someone who feels they just make stuff up right?
I fully respect your right to have an opinion and to post that but I will call it out when it's based on made up quotes which you have been unable support.

Here you go.

I wont tell you which teams I don't like as that freedom of expression is denied on this forum and results in an ad hominem pile on. (Spurs and Brighton would feature).

[Footy-Vill]

Can i politely say this above discussion doesn’t belong here.
When saw the indicators for new contributions for this thread I thought be about the footage of Dubai training camp .
Let’s get back on topic shall we.

Look official footage of Villa players in Dubai.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/video/e9fe07f8-58e2-40ad-b788-d5320301ff7f

[PeterWithe]

I think we should have some sort of symbol on the thread title, to alert the casual reader that there is a row going on inside that may prove of interest. A boxing glove perhaps?

I nearly missed this.

[Sexual Ealing]

Au contraire, footy. What better place is there for petty, middle-aged men to type out evidence of their own futility than in a thread called 'Dubai'?

[Clampy]

Is this the room for an argument?

[Sexual Ealing]

Is it fuck, you div.

[Drummond]

Can i politely say this above discussion doesn’t belong here.
When saw the indicators for new contributions for this thread I thought be about the footage of Dubai training camp .
Let’s get back on topic shall we.

Look official footage of Villa players in Dubai.

https://www.avfc.co.uk/video/e9fe07f8-58e2-40ad-b788-d5320301ff7f

Welcome to my world.

[edgysatsuma89]

Is it fuck, you div.

I really enjoy div as an insult, but have no idea where the word comes from.