Summer 2025 Transfer Window - hopes, speculation, rumours etc.

[martyn ellis]

Little by little and very stealthily, we are fitting all the pieces together, like completing the jigsaw. Getting more optimistic every day. Bizot, Guessard under the radar. Buendía effectively new, Asensio more than a possibility. Pity about JJ.

[tomd2103]

^^ I know they play different positions, but they’re both loosely ‘attacking midfielders’, and Asensio scored more for us in his half-season than JJ has ever managed in a full one.

I get the point, but as you point out they play different positions.  I think the role Ramsey plays in the side is probably Rogers' best position and McGinn can play there as well, so there is cover. 

If Rogers moves out there though, we would need another option in the ' number 10' role and that is where Asensio comes in.  We would need someone in that role who is going to be a consistently pivotal player for us this season and as talented as he is, I'm just not  sure Asensio can be that.  He was a joy to watch at times last season though, so I wouldn't be too upset if he signed again.

[cdbearsfan]

After the last couple of years it has become obvious that we are never winning a trophy again. May as well accept that and try to enjoy ourselves by signing some fun players, and Asensio is fun to watch. Would love to see him back again, the handsome devil.

[Sexual Ealing]

After the last couple of years it has become obvious that we are never winning a trophy again. May as well accept that and try to enjoy ourselves by signing some fun players, and Asensio is fun to watch. Would love to see him back again, the handsome devil.

This is exactly where I am.

[caster troy]

Asensio is not a like for like for Coutinho, that is peak pessimism.

Pessimistic maybe but are they really that different?

Asensio three goals and one assist in 13 league games. 28 when we signed him on loan. Prior to that 6 goals in 31 games for PSG.
Coutinho five goals and three assists in 19 league games. 29 when we signed him on loan. Prior to that 8 goals in 23 games for Bayern.

Both skilful players with a tendancy to go missing when the team is struggling, known for scoring absolute bangers in the past. Can only really play in the '10' role as they aren't quick enough to play on the wing and aren't physical enough to lead the line.

[Drummond]

Guessand replaces Rashford.

Bizot replaces Olsen.

Asensio replaces Asensio. (IF)

other than that, we haven't replaced Disasi and that's it.

We've a load of players back from loans, Buendia, Iling Junior, Dobbin, Moreno and then the ones we want to lose, Dendoncker, Hause (gone), Coutinho (gone).

We've spent £37m on Guessand and Ozcan and received £7m for Kesler-Hayden (£4m) and a £3m loan fee for Barrenechea.

That £30m deficit explains the potential £40m for Ramsey to put us in a positive position for UEFA.

[paul_e]

Why would you skew the stats to ignore 5 of his goals for us?

[SaddVillan]

Guessand replaces Rashford.

Bizot replaces Olsen.

Asensio replaces Asensio. (IF)

other than that, we haven't replaced Disasi and that's it.

We've a load of players back from loans, Buendia, Iling Junior, Dobbin, Moreno and then the ones we want to lose, Dendoncker, Hause (gone), Coutinho (gone).

We've spent £37m on Guessand and Ozcan and received £7m for Kesler-Hayden (£4m) and a £3m loan fee for Barrenechea.

That £30m deficit explains the potential £40m for Ramsey to put us in a positive position for UEFA.

Guessand's fee  is amortised over the life of his contract, which is 5 yrs. You only amortise the fee, not the add-ons (they're accounted for as and when paid).

So the fee was £23.5m - we'll take a £4.7m amout onto the books, which means we're ahead in terms of PSR as things stand.

[SaddVillan]

The big worry for me regarding a possible Asensio deal is how much we'll pay.

I'd much prefer a loan with PSG contributing towards his wages.

But I guess aged 29 he's angling for one final contract and PSG want him off their books.

Twitter talk of a €20m fee (ridiculous in my mind), plus a 3 year contract.

If he's expecting upwards of £150k pw then that's double what Ramsey is/was on, and if he does get that amount, then surely that means somebody else on decent money is off to make sufficient space on the overall wage bill.

If we do sign him, give him c£100k pw, plus results based bonuses. Gives us a bit of SCR protection?

[andyh]

It’s wonderful that our books are balanced or in the process of being balanced.
I’m sure that we will be climbing the financial league tables and pleasing the bean counters.

However, last time I looked we were a football club and our true success should be measured on the pitch.

I know we are completely hamstrung by the authorities, but have we now given up hope and expectation on bringing in big players who will improve the squad, proven quality who will hit the ground running and take us to the next level ?
Where is the next superstar who is going to send us all into a frenzy of expectation ?

Maybe those days are gone.

[caster troy]

Why would you skew the stats to ignore 5 of his goals for us?

Coutinho didn't play in the Champions league so it seemed fairer to compare their league records.

[PeterWithesShin]

We've rarely signed a superstar in my 50 years following us.

[kippaxvilla2]

After the last couple of years it has become obvious that we are never winning a trophy again. May as well accept that and try to enjoy ourselves by signing some fun players, and Asensio is fun to watch. Would love to see him back again, the handsome devil.

This is exactly where I am.

And me.

[OCD]

PSR isn't an issue...SCR is.

I read an article last night that said PSG are going to pay Asensio's last year of his contract off so that we can offer terms that fit our situation. So we're probably paying PSG an extra few million to enable them to write off his final year.

That way we're ok on the wages and the transfer fee comes out of our revenue. Cooking the books basically. The ratio UEFA are bothered about is wages to turnover so it doesn't matter if we make a loss if my interpretation is right.

RCF - you needed to go back 1-2 pages for discussion on Ordonez.

[andyh]

We've rarely signed a superstar in my 50 years following us.

I have few years on you, and we have had many players who have got the excitement juices flowing.