Palace v Villa Post Match Hiding Place

[ROBBO]

The only shot on goal came from direct football, oppositions have worked us out now with this Martinez standing on the ball, passing it sideways, passing it back,passing it sideways again, JJ loses possession goal. It is so annoying, even in attack we go very Arsenal, never getting it into the box. That is why Rashford in his first outings was so refreshing, actually attacking the defence at pace. Emery had far better options than to bring on a player wh's worst attribute is tackling and then use him as a wing back. This result is down to Emery, we had far superior players at our disposal but he got it completely wrong.

[Rory]

The only word I can come up with is embarrassing.

We lost to another team in our division, away from home. What's embarrassing?

There is valid criticism, but some of you lot are beginning to sound like the kind of wanker Sky 6 fans that we always complain about.

[adrenachrome]

"Villa have conceded from their opponent's first shot on target in 17 fixtures this season, as well as from the rebound in three games when the first attempt was saved."@AVFCStatto

[eamonn]

We must be top of the xG conceded table.

[django]

I’m not quite sure what the problem is this season, but some thoughts…

Our attempts to bait the press with Martinez stopping on the ball rarely work anymore. Our goal and one of our best opportunities in the first half came from long balls from both our keepers straight up to Watkins.

I don’t want us to turn into a long ball team but  I wonder if we might cause teams more problems if we mixed things up a bit more often.

The modern game seems to be made up of both teams wanting to play on the transition which maybe explains why we seem to give a better account of ourselves against the better teams who we get to break on than the lesser teams who break on us.

Our inability to play a settled defence who know one another and rest midfielders is obviously not helping matters. We put a lot of our transfer eggs into Onanas injury stricken basket and into Maatesen. Our lack of depth in key areas is a bit frustrating when so much was spent on players who wouldn’t make our best eleven and could have spread cover round a bit.

We’re really not going to win the Champions League I’m afraid. We have a lot riding on the FA Cup now I feel as I’m getting that worried feeling about losing some of our players that I haven’t had for a while.

[Rudy65]

This was the absolute pits, but in characteristics it’s not dissimilar to Chelsea away, Spurs away, Newcastle away.

Add Wolves, Bruges, Monaco and Forest

[JUAN PABLO]

The only word I can come up with is embarrassing.

We lost to another team in our division, away from home. What's embarrassing?

There is valid criticism, but some of you lot are beginning to sound like the kind of wanker Sky 6 fans that we always complain about.

well I thought it was  a pathetic performance myself , cant believe he picked that team for a start and most who played , they was embarrassing  .  Glasner has Emery's number .

[Rory]

The only word I can come up with is embarrassing.

We lost to another team in our division, away from home. What's embarrassing?

There is valid criticism, but some of you lot are beginning to sound like the kind of wanker Sky 6 fans that we always complain about.

well I thought it was  a pathetic performance myself , cant believe he picked that team for a start and most who played , they was embarrassing  .  Glasner has Emery's number .

So, within reason, a 'poor' or 'very poor' performance.

Not 'embarrassing'. Why shouldn't Crystal Palace beat us? It's a game and the opposition can win.

[JUAN PABLO]

The only word I can come up with is embarrassing.

We lost to another team in our division, away from home. What's embarrassing?

There is valid criticism, but some of you lot are beginning to sound like the kind of wanker Sky 6 fans that we always complain about.

well I thought it was  a pathetic performance myself , cant believe he picked that team for a start and most who played , they was embarrassing  .  Glasner has Emery's number .

So, within reason, a 'poor' or 'very poor' performance.

Not 'embarrassing'. Why shouldn't Crystal Palace beat us? It's a game and the opposition can win.

Of course they can beat us but they battered us , we won 8 tackles compared to their 36 ,  could easily have been 8 2  to be fair to them .  The starting line up and formation obviously didnt help and scrathing my head why malen got no minutes.

[jwarry]

I might be the odd one out out here but I think Unai got the starting line up right.  He was clearly worried they would batter us so went like for like and we were relatively untroubled until they scored, and even then a dodgy VAR stopped us from seeing the plan through.  As soon as he panicked and changed it to a four his fears were realised

[London Villan]

The bait/press needs Torres and Kamara to work properly. Without them there is often a lot of panic.

[ASHTONVILLA]

I rushed back to watch the second half on TV, much to my other halfs disgust as it meant leaving a nice restaurant promptly. She reckons it was karma, I reckon it was poor team selection, with a makeshift defence with tired legs in front of it and a not brilliant goalkeeper behind it.

The first 15 minutes of the half a game I saw we looked pretty good going forwards, unlucky with the chalked off goal and a well crafted goal. Once their second went in we looked ragged and the subs did not make much of an impact.

Disappointing. Five hour drive to Belgium this morning to look at strawberry farms, going to be in a grumpy, coffee deficient mood for most of it.

[Percy McCarthy]

I rushed back to watch the second half on TV, much to my other halfs disgust as it meant leaving a nice restaurant promptly. She reckons it was karma, I reckon it was poor team selection, with a makeshift defence with tired legs in front of it and a not brilliant goalkeeper behind it.

The first 15 minutes of the half a game I saw we looked pretty good going forwards, unlucky with the chalked off goal and a well crafted goal. Once their second went in we looked ragged and the subs did not make much of an impact.

Disappointing. Five hour drive to Belgium this morning to look at strawberry farms, going to be in a grumpy, coffee deficient mood for most of it.

Never mind all that, how was the korma?

[nick harper]

Our away form in the league since beating Fulham in October..

W 1 D 1 L 7 Scored 6 Conceded 22.

That’s more than a blip. As well as being dreadful at the back, we’re not much of a threat going forward. And even taking into account Europe in that time, we have lost 9 of our last 12, conceding the first in most.

[PaulWinch again]

Our away form in the league since beating Fulham in October..

W 1 D 1 L 7 Scored 6 Conceded 22.

That’s more than a blip. As well as being dreadful at the back, we’re not much of a threat going forward. And even taking into account Europe in that time, we have lost 9 of our last 12, conceding the first in most.

Yep it’s woeful and yet we continue to take the same approach to each game. Maybe change it? The time we went more direct we scored. It would be nice to mix it up.