Palace v Villa Post Match Hiding Place

[aj2k77]

We've conceded 4, 2, 2, 0, 3, 2, 3, 2 ,4 and 1 in our last 10 away games. 22 goals conceded in 10 games.

[Demitri_C]

We've conceded 4, 2, 2, 0, 3, 2, 3, 2 ,4 and 1 in our last 10 away games. 22 goals conceded in 10 games.

Thats undefendable in my opinion

Embarrassing  defensive record

[BoVillan esq]

how come no one ever moans about martinez? he pushed ball into players path again when it was in both hands,then when he knows he's fucked up pretends he's injured or ill! 3rd worst save percentage in league! he needs to go with konsa

Is Martinez overrated? Our goals against column is starting to suggest he might be.

Overrated? difficult one, still up there but, he's 32 now, for him, its possible he's slowing down and not the keeper he has been and we will see more of this kind of thing, we should have a plan in place.

[rougegorge]

Sounds daft after losing 1-4, but although not creating much, we were the better side until they scored and I thought we probably deserved to get level, but thereafter it was dreadful. Our direct contributions to their goals along with the poor defending was abject.

If we can't expect Tielemans and McGinn to protect the defence, we need to be lining up with a better formation and also be playing to our strengths - in the opponent's half,  not getting easily pressed into errors at the back.

[Richard]

We've conceded 4, 2, 2, 0, 3, 2, 3, 2 ,4 and 1 in our last 10 away games. 22 goals conceded in 10 games.

23 but I get your point. Our away form is unacceptable and yet we hardly concede in the CL. Bizarre.

[brontebilly]

how come no one ever moans about martinez? he pushed ball into players path again when it was in both hands,then when he knows he's fucked up pretends he's injured or ill! 3rd worst save percentage in league! he needs to go with konsa

Is Martinez overrated? Our goals against column is starting to suggest he might be.

He isn't having a good season anyway. Such a soft parry for the first. But we were brutal for the two crosses into our box that preceeded it.

The mind boggles with the decision to start Bogarde in there against such strong forwards.

[adrenachrome]

You know it, I know it, even Mrs Baldy knows it, our defence is the problem.

So why do we persist in playing out from the back every fucking game and heaping even more pressure on our defence.

Glasner has Emery’s number for sure. Let us have the ball and wait for us to make a mistake. We sap energy from the game messing about at the back and then get caught time and time again.

The defenders are just not good enough to play it consistently especially away from home.

Even Pep admitted that it doesn't work any more, teams have learned to play against it and counter it. Real played a couple of long balls against City and scored, and did them easily on the transition. We need to up our tempo and get the ball into midfield sooner. How many times have we faffed around at the back and conceded stupid goals.

Case in point: Emi received a back pass, and trapped the ball, waiting for a player to close him down. They just held their ground, and the home fans starting booing as though he was delaying a goal kick.

Rigid systems come unstuck when enough teams work them out.

[Brend'Watkins]

Very poor performance. They closed us down and we went slowly backwards. Exactly what Palace wanted. When we shifted the ball quickly we got ourselves into decent positions. But then we reverted back to the slow going nowhere nonsense which at no time proved to be successful. Totally baffling.

[aj2k77]

We've conceded 4, 2, 2, 0, 3, 2, 3, 2 ,4 and 1 in our last 10 away games. 22 goals conceded in 10 games.

23 but I get your point. Our away form is unacceptable and yet we hardly concede in the CL. Bizarre.

Im that enraged that I can't count. Now it's 23 conceded in 10 i'm even angrier.

[Dante Lavelli]

how come no one ever moans about martinez? he pushed ball into players path again when it was in both hands,then when he knows he's fucked up pretends he's injured or ill! 3rd worst save percentage in league! he needs to go with konsa

Is Martinez overrated? Our goals against column is starting to suggest he might be.

Overrated? difficult one, still up there but, he's 32 now, for him, its possible he's slowing down and not the keeper he has been and we will see more of this kind of thing, we should have a plan in place.

“Having a plan” sounds about right.  It’s unlikely we’ll get Europe so I can see him seeking a move.  Just need to make sure we fleece the buyer, probably Chelsea, for a massive sum.

[PeterWithe]

We don't create enough chances and give up far too many. That's about the long and short really. And I'm really not sure what's changed and why, we've abandoned the offside trap, is that because we think other teams have worked it out and can get deeper runners behind it? Or just a change of philosophy?

[Somniloquism]

We don't create enough chances and give up far too many. That's about the long and short really. And I'm really not sure what's changed and why, we've abandoned the offside trap, is that because we think other teams have worked it out and can get deeper runners behind it? Or just a change of philosophy?

He doesn't trust the players to keep it up? The trouble is some still try it very poorly so step up instead of tracking back / not stepping up because it isn't a main tactic so playing everyone onside and I believe it is a reason now we are also letting in more goals.

[shipscat]

We're absolutely running on fumes in the engine room and they hunted every tired stretch, every slight mis control from Mcginn and Tielemans down. Neither was able to get any momentum, got picked off and we really needed a fresh pair of legs in there, noting Barkley, Onana and Kamara have got the  missing for 27 days plus t-shirts again, which is dreadfully unlucky but the injuries are a price of the success over the past 28 months or so 

The season has been so stop start that I fear we're bumping along before the gas stops...I couldn't understand the 352, as the evidence, Spurs away, showed a miserable, tactically butchered performance last time...but i could understand the general reticence going there, and the mindset to keep the powder dry.

All retrospect, but I felt prior to kickoff, we should have bunged the midfield up with some fresh legs...possibly gone Bogarde, Tielemans and Ramsey centrally, and stuck the 3 who finished at Chelsea up top, Malen, Rashford and Bailey..The bench would have been swinging and we'd have had a more energetic Mcginn, Ollie and Rogers to switch plus Asensio.

The other thing I think is we're turning up on a personal level and struggling with the environment, and the game scenario...great away at Leipzig, home to Man City..all bright and compact...lethargic and half witted for the run of the mill games. Dreadful versus the South Cockneys now on three occasions, Tatters away, Ipswich twice, Brugge and a host of midplace teams getting points at villa park.Mentality, luck, injuries or we've been sussed...Not sure...

[PeterWithe]

If he could drill it into the players last year, why not a different set this year?

[Martyn Smith]

Please don't let us get them in the quarters. Assuming...