Palace v Villa Post Match Hiding Place

[nick harper]

You know it, I know it, even Mrs Baldy knows it, our defence is the problem.

So why do we persist in playing out from the back every fucking game and heaping even more pressure on our defence.

Glasner has Emery’s number for sure. Let us have the ball and wait for us to make a mistake. We sap energy from the game messing about at the back and then get caught time and time again.

The defenders are just not good enough to play it consistently especially away from home.

[PaulWinch again]

I'm not one to criticise Watkins either but the difference in the finish of Matteta's chance and Oli's was a bit embarrassing.

They’re quite different to be fair, but Ollie should have done better.

[London Villan]

Not really - half a sniff of goal and Oli tamely screws it wide, Matteta almost rips the net.

[Witton Warrior]

The one thing they are all incredibly good at though, with Konsa being king, is fucking pointing.

The ghost of 2015

[Rudy Can't Fail]

I'll be  surprised if Konsa is in Tuchel's first squad. he's been out of sorts for a while now.

Tuchel must be even more pissed off than the Villa fans. What a waste of a night, all his English lads were shit.

[adrenachrome]

Our GD is tells the story.

[PaulWinch again]

Well the Villa ones.

[brontebilly]

Awful, awful beyond belief. Players will take a lot of criticism but Emery had a nightmare tonight. I presumed seeing the line up that Bogarde was going into midfield. A horrid five at the back that sold out McGinn and Tielemans. Bailey then brought on but at wing back! Asensio and Rashford on for two of our best players on the night! Rogers up top and Malen left on bench. We were a complete rabble and that's solely on Emery.

Martinez 5 - one great save but poor for first, Olsen 5 never looks like saving anything
Garcia 4 - lost in a stupid role, Bailey 4 was decent going forward but lost in no man's land defensively
Disasi 4 - rotten, bullied by Mateta throughout and absolutely is not a RB/RWB
Konsa 1 - d*ckhead, soft as shit as per usual in any contest, rotten attitude needed addressing early on this season. Too late out
Bogarde 2 - horrible night, let down by his manager
Digne 4 - not a LWB, Maatsen came on too late
Tielemans 5 - we got overran in midfield, nice touches
McGinn 4 - tried very hard but didn't have a chance
Rogers 5 - brilliant goal but again lost in position he was picked in
Ramsey 7 - very good and a crazy decision to take him off, that pen shout is given as a foul everywhere else on pitch
Watkins 7 - ridiculous decision to take him off, did great for our goal and the offside one.

Asensio and Rashford hardly had a kick of note between them.

Emery 0

[Beard82]

Really poor - thought we were the better side first half and unlucky not to be level.  3 at the back didnt work - and we never look as comfortable with Olsen in goal.

All on Unai for me.  The formation was wrong - the wing backs made no impact - and after there first goal the back 3 lost and sense of control.  Every sub made us worse. 

Only mitgations i would say is some marginal decisions just didnt go our way, and mcginn and youri having to be our midfield constiently - with Barkley, Onana and Kamara all out.

Lack leadership in games like that without Mings and Emi.  Could really do with a few more in the squad with those skills. 

Every good result is followed up with an awful one - if we're not careful we could end up with a mid table finish and nothing else to show.  This squad is better than that.

Im sure well go again next season, and as long as Unai is here well get our act together, but think we're likely to lose Emi and maybe Ollie as a result of mid-table finish combined with our shite FFP position.  Worried this could be another sliding doors moment where we just didnt kick on when we should have.  In the top 5 this season, there will be at least two poor teams / teams that have been poor this season.  We needed to make sure we were one of them.

[PhilVill]

Bailey as RWB. Sometimes these managers try to be too clever.

I said that to my partner when I saw the set up 10 minutes in. When your defence is  already up shit creek, you don't then reintroduce a failed set up.

[Holte132]

Our GD is -45!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/table

Look again - it doesn't say that at all!!

[Dante Lavelli]

Compare defences.
Palace had a set of players who relished defending. Attacking every ball.
Trying to be first to everything. Being aggressive and dominant.

Our lot are so timid in comparison. I know we have injuries but they approach each game the same regardless of who is playing.
Jockeying rather than attacking, jogging rather than running and overplaying to the max.

Palaces first goal was a prime example. The ball goes out wide. Palace players race to be first to it, our defenders jog out behind them, allowing Palace to collect the free ball, with us making no attempt to be first to the the ball.

The one thing they are all incredibly good at though, with Konsa being king, is fucking pointing.

Spot on.  We need more players that enjoy defending.  I fear Emery will think the answer is Pau Torres but that will just compound the problem in my opinion.

[BoVillan esq]

I'll be  surprised if Konsa is in Tuchel's first squad. he's been out of sorts for a while now.

Tuchel must be even more pissed off than the Villa fans. What a waste of a night, all his English lads were shit.

Couldn't give a monkies what Tuchel thinks tbh.

[adrenachrome]

Our GD is -45!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/table

Look again - it doesn't say that at all!!

I've edited the post.

[Demitri_C]

That was like watching steven gerrards  villa tonight

Fucking  awful