Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Amfy, isn't that £68 for the club, £20 for you?

[Archbishop Herbert Cockthrottle]

Why were the players wearing black arm bands last night?

The Dog shit getting to Wembley.

[Clampy]

There were a couple seats empty by us and two new chaps in front of us, one of whom spent the first 10 minutes of the second half showing his mate pictures of his holiday in where I presume was Thailand judging by the amount of women in the pictures.

Not that I was looking.

[PeterWithe]

I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.

Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we gave the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.

To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.

Overall, a good draw and a great game.

[Percy McCarthy]

I stopped taking brontebilly seriously when he started saying that the more goals a defence concedes, the better it is.

Still missing Diego, petal?

Not really, but I miss the clean sheets, we used to keep a lot more when he played. How about you breezeblock?

The football knowledge of a balloon AND homophobic. What a combination.

Still think the hallmark of a good defence is conceding lots of goals? I mean, that’s a pretty ‘out there’ opinion no?

This season’s clean sheets:

Young Boys
Bayern
Juventus
Bologna
Man Utd
Southampton
Everton

Guess who played centre-half in all but the Everton game?

[Paul.S]

I don’t know who they are selling tickets to but it’s becoming an issue by me in the lower Holte.
Lots of half and halfers who simply cannot read their tickets. I’ve now had issues at the Palace, Spurs and West Ham games where people have been in my seat. On 2 of those occasions I’ve had to explain that I’ve sat there for years and last night some bloke actually stood directly in front of me in my space.
I’ve had someone tell me they should sit where I do as it’s an isle seat and they needed the room and last night I made the cardinal sin of going to the toilet during the first half and the bloke next to me had moved over thinking I was going to stand in the isle. If it wasn’t for the lads around me shouting at him to move it could’ve got a bit nasty.

[VILLA MOLE]

I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.

Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.

To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.

Overall, a good draw and a great game.

I agree great game , but the first 5 minutes I was behind the sofa !!

[PeterWithe]

Its about time there was a cull of people wearing half/half scarves, I know the world needs a bit more love in desperate times, but not for these ******. Perhaps something could be done to involve them in the half time entertainment, probably involving lions.

[VILLA MOLE]

Its about time there was a cull of people wearing half/half scarves, I know the world needs a bit more love in desperate times, but not for these ******. Perhaps something could be done to involve them in the half time entertainment, probably involving lions.

The ball into  the target should be pushed more and bring away fans into it .  it is a great game !

[Brend'Watkins]

I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.

Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.

To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.

Overall, a good draw and a great game.

That's how I seen it too. 

Liverpool pressed us really well and forced those mistakes but 2nd half we persevered with the passing out from the back and had some success through the middle.

Agree with you regarding Rogers too.  He played really well after a very iffy first hour.  Should have done much better with that shot 2nd half.  He's got to at least make the keeper work from that position.  He'll learn.

[amfy]

Amfy, isn't that £68 for the club, £20 for you?

Yeah probably - I still think a£13 admin charge on a resale is a pisstake though!

[brontebilly]

Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times

Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym

Agree with most of that: I think Mings (after a very dodgy start) and Disasi deserve more.
Rashford's passing was very wayward for most of the game, but him being there drew the opposition defence.
Rogers needs some time off and to learn when to pass.

Rashford was up against a guy who can't defend. There were some nice touches but when did he really go after him? We gave up any semblance of balance in midfield to accommodate Rashford and Asensio and neither performed, both could have been hooked 10 mins earlier. Rashford walking after TAA for their second goal was scandalous really. The team was so much better balanced after the three subs with Rogers back in his best position, Ramsey on left, Cash and Malen on the right. 

Obviously Liverpool are levels above 10 man Ipswich and a Spurs team with zero belief but we don't have the luxury of giving those two another 4 or 5 games to get match fit.

[Beard82]

I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.

Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.

To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.

Overall, a good draw and a great game.

I agree great game , but the first 5 minutes I was behind the sofa !!

I think thats the bit that annoys me - as actually we dont often look like conceeding until we do something rubbish.  At the end of the day we have such a concentration fo injuries around CB and CM that I think thats really killed our chance of momentum. 

[PeterWithe]

To give them a little credit, Liverpool clearly know TAA is going to be exposed in a 1-1 with Rashford so the covering midfielder was very quick to get over whenever he got the ball, difficult for Rashford to stay wide and isolate him as its probably only Mings of the defenders capable of hitting the long switch, and he's already playing on the left of the CBs.

I thought he did fine, and an hour against possibly the best team in the world is going to be good for what's ahead.

[ChicagoLion]

I thought it was a fantastic game with it swinging one way then another. I thought after their equalizer, that they would go on and win as we looked leggy all over the park, had started making even more mistakes in possession and they were easing us off the ball regularly. But we got that second wind and looked the more likely at the end, Rogers in particular I thought was pretty ordinary most of the game but turned in a 9/10 for the last portion of the game.

Garcia looked very promising, Rashford a threat before fading badly around the hour. Disasi was immense. We need to start games better though, the amount of times we have the ball away in dangerous positions in the early part of the game was shocking.

To be honest, with yet more changes at the back and Mings clearly being nowhere near 100%, I didn't think they created too much that we didn't gift them.

Overall, a good draw and a great game.

That's how I seen it too. 

Liverpool pressed us really well and forced those mistakes but 2nd half we persevered with the passing out from the back and had some success through the middle.

Agree with you regarding Rogers too.  He played really well after a very iffy first hour.  Should have done much better with that shot 2nd half.  He's got to at least make the keeper work from that position.  He'll learn.

after 70 minutes they looked like they were pllaying for the draw.