Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread

[Somniloquism]

Yes the ref gave them some marginal calls but he missed mcginns handball for our goal. We be moaning if that happened us

I was worried that was going to get the goal ruled out.

Ball was kicked against his hand from 6 inches out. Would have been a tough call. but seen them given. How far before the goal was that btw?

[Brend'Watkins]

Yes the ref gave them some marginal calls but he missed mcginns handball for our goal. We be moaning if that happened us

I was worried that was going to get the goal ruled out.

Ball was kicked against his hand from 6 inches out. Would have been a tough call. but seen them given. How far before the goal was that btw?

I fully expected it to be ruled out so was pleasantly surprised that it wasn’t looked at. Maybe it was and they thought it was too far back to use it even though it was against Liverpool.

[PeterWithesShin]

If a goal was disallowed for that i'd think it a shit decision, whether it was for or against us.

[Somniloquism]

Malen's chance was closer then I first thought and was passed Allison before he dived.

[tomd2103]

What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.

Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.

Only empty seats I could see were blocks in the top of the Trinity Road and Doug Ellis Lower and I think we all know which seats those are.

[amfy]

What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.

Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.

On TV with the sound up the atmosphere came over well!

I would agree for the reasons for it not being a full, as I would have probably come down even on a weeknight if it wasn’t in a run of 4 home games in a fortnight!

However, in some ways I think it may be misleading to say it wasn’t sold out. Jane & I put our STs for this game back to the club for sale quite early on, and they did sell. They don’t usually sell returned season tickets until it’s sold out. So the empty seats were likely to be mostly season tickets seats which hadn’t resold. I think they let them back on sale only when there is a low number of single GA+ remaining. Mine & Janes would have been there as soon as they were released, and are in a decent spot and are a pair, but this didn’t happen until a few days ago.

So - I think, there were tickets for sale, but if they didn’t sell, they were mostly already sold (to season ticket holders) if that makes sense.

Also noted on this occasion - my ST divided by the 19 games it covers is worth just over £33 a game. On resale we got just over £20! (Due to the deduction of an ‘admin’ fee). Those same seats would have then been resold for £55! So overall the club got £88 for my seat for this game instead of the original £33 they would have got out of me!

[aj2k77]

A good performance, crap at the back as usual but ultimately another game without a win.

[tomd2103]

What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.

Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.

On TV with the sound up the atmosphere came over well!

I would agree for the reasons for it not being a full, as I would have probably come down even on a weeknight if it wasn’t in a run of 4 home games in a fortnight!

However, in some ways I think it may be misleading to say it wasn’t sold out. Jane & I put our STs for this game back to the club for sale quite early on, and they did sell. They don’t usually sell returned season tickets until it’s sold out. So the empty seats were likely to be mostly season tickets seats which hadn’t resold. I think they let them back on sale only when there is a low number of single GA+ remaining. Mine & Janes would have been there as soon as they were released, and are in a decent spot and are a pair, but this didn’t happen until a few days ago.

So - I think, there were tickets for sale, but if they didn’t sell, they were mostly already sold (to season ticket holders) if that makes sense.

Also noted on this occasion - my ST divided by the 19 games it covers is worth just over £33 a game. On resale we got just over £20! (Due to the deduction of an ‘admin’ fee). Those same seats would have then been resold for £55! So overall the club got £88 for my seat for this game instead of the original £33 they would have got out of me!

Chris Heck likes that last paragraph!!

[Flamingo Lane]

Why were the players wearing black arm bands last night?

[The Edge]

Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...

But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.

Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times

Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym

It is funny what games we see but I thought Disasi was very good tonight !

Agree, Disasi was very good tonight. Giving him 4/10 is ridiculous!

Some of those assessments are bonkers. I thought Disasi looked really good. A solid 7 imo. I agree that Mings wasn't great though. Once they're all fit ill be happy with Konsa, Disasi and Pau as our best options. Any two out of the three would do for me.

[Demitri_C]

If we could actually defend i think this team finishes top four easy. Just annoying we have anothee game saturday and even if they are not in great form chelsea are a decent side

[Brend'Watkins]

Those brontebilly assessments remind me of a Two Ronnies sketch where a question is answered with the answer to the previous question.

[UK Redsox]

What was the atmosphere like? We watched it in a pub with no sound, so couldn’t really tell. Pity it wasn’t sold out though.

Atmosphere was good. I think not being a sell out can be put down to the late switch of date right into the middle of a run of successive home games.

Only empty seats I could see were blocks in the top of the Trinity Road and Doug Ellis Lower and I think we all know which seats those are.

Also ST holders who couldn't make it. eg the lad who sits in front of me and the two blokes to my left.
That'll account for some of the blue behind the dugouts

What were the black armbands for ?
(although not all players seemed to be wearing them)

[Villa Lew]

A deserved point against a team, who may well finish Premier League and CL winners. Thought Tielemans was MOM great display, full credit goes to Garcia follow his cock up, went on to give a fine display, shows a lot about his character, after an average first half, Rogers was always a constant threat to Liverpool, mentions also go to Ollie, what a header, Digne against Salah and Disasi, shame he can't play on Saturday.

[MalcolmP]

Ridiculous scores. Garcia superb at least a 7. Gave ball away once. Mcginn had given ball away about 5 times before that and was shocking for an hour and you give him a 7. Had we had 4 players with a 4 out of 10 and a player with a 5 out of ten (half a team)  we would have been battered. No player deserved less than a 6. Mings was pretty solid most of the game and made one goal saving tackle. He tired towards the end which was not unexpected with over 12 months out and a further recent injury and also seemed to have a knock early in first half. We have been much more  dominant in the air since Mings came back in and dont look as vulnerable from set pieces as we were. Disasi was also very good. Only a Chelsea fan would give him a 4 lol. You obviously saw a different game to most of us.