Aston Villa v Liverpool Post-Match Thread

[PaulWinch again]

Asensio looked like 5% off it, I reckon with a few more games he’ll be very handy.

Nice to see really good impact from the subs, we were struggling when they came on but they helped wrestle it back.

Also I was critical of Youri’s general play in the first half but he improved on that a lot in the second.

[Olneythelonely]

Some posters are forgetting that bronte, after Rudolf Nureyev appeared at the Bescot for a charity ballet-off with Gary Newbon rated his performance worthy of a 2/10. "His port de bras is a disgrace, and if Niklaus Helenius had turned in a pas de deux like that he'd have been hounded out of dodge. The lad's a myth." He said at the time.

Newbon got a 7.

Ha

[manic-road]

Not a disaster, plenty to build on until the end of the season.

[steamer]

I always enjoy reading Bronte scorecard, but some of tonight's scores were way off the Mark, no way Desai was a 4.
One time he held the line and should have followed the man in the first half almost gave away a goal, but not alone there.
With our injuries it is hard to be critical, sadly I think that when others are fit Mings will be slipping down the order, crazy fuck up saved by Emi

[mrfuse]

Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...

But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.

Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times

Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym

Disasi 4? Were we watching the same game? I'm not saying he was outstanding, but he was pretty good, considering it was his first start with Mings.

 I think he going for the WM statement or a social media hit but I've fallen for it and given him some attention. Disasi, Mings Rashford and Asensio 4....behave that's utter bollocks.

[Ducksworthy]

Definite corruption at PGMOL. I don’t know if you’ve heard but the VAR was from Rhode Island or whatever it was

[Clampy]

Bronte and his silly marks are best ignored.

[Toronto Villa]

Much better team after the changes, Rogers far more involved at 10. Malen was dangerous, Ramsey and Cash were excellent. McGinn and Tielemans after a horror start did very well. We battled very well against a superior opponent and inches away from winning it...

But we were a complete mess at the back. Kick outs from the back causing us problems even. I think the folly of bringing in both Asensio and Rashford was exposed, both nowhere near fully fit. Rashford was a joke for their second with his abysmal effort tracking TAA. Putting them both in made a mess of the balance of the team, Rogers on right doesn't work. Our best athlete in our front 6 apart from Watkins was McGinn, love McGinn but that's ridiculous.

Martinez 7 - couple of unbelievable saves but shaky at set pieces
Garcia 5 - awful mistake punished for opener. Spoiled a decent first half from him
Disasi 4 - not sure about this lad at all, Mings seemed to be doing a lot of covering at front post
Mings 4 - more evidence sadly that he's done at this level. That mistake at end was surreal, ball like a 50p piece at his feet
Digne 6 - great assist and battled as best he could v Salah
McGinn 7 - awful start losing ball twice in first 5 mins, showed great leadership afterwards I thought
Tielemans 7 - anonymous early on too but brave in possession I thought
Rogers 6 - awful on right and fortunate not replaced but transformed back in his best spot
Rashford 4 - some nice moments in first half but bad habits reappeared early in second
Asensio 4 - Coutinho vibes, lovely touches but stamina non existent
Watkins 7 - outstanding goal, battled hard with limited support at times

Like the look of Malen, Cash and Ramsey made a huge difference, Maatsen needs a summer in gym

we were playing the clear leaders of the league and favourites to win it, and arguably the best team in Europe at the moment. If our CBs only got a 4, along with Rashford and Asensio then we've just been battered 4-0 at home. I'm pretty sure that didn't happen.

[Andy_Lochhead_in_the_air]

Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.

A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.

Disasi looked really good, very impressed.

Slot didn't say anything like that. He said they had lots more chances and should have won. He's a prick.

They had better ones than we did, missing a couple of sitters. Their xG was 2.44 v 0.73 for us. Just happened we were mostly on top in injury time which I wouldn't have anticipated.

Leaving aside xG, the actual score, chances created, possession stats, referee decisions, VAR, substitutions ,who was on top at the start or the end and during any of the time in between the main point being made is that without doubt and inarguably the present Liverpool manager (like the previous incumbent) is a twat.

[Martyn Smith]

We could have won it at the end, but so could they. Happy enough with the point on my first outing as the match thread starter.

A solid debut, I thought

[chipper]

Draw fair result. Asensio Rashford and mings faded as game wore. Had visions of the United Rashford as he sadly tracked Trent for their 2nd. Thought Cash gave us a bit of energy when he came on also.

[Demitri_C]

I must be in a small minority  but i thought mings was good barring the error for nunez. He worked very hard

[DesBremner]

Didn't see much wrong with what Slot said.


Post of the night
Hats off to you Mr Lochead

A bit of a ding ding, could've gone either way. 12 errors leading to goals this season, conceding willy nilly, 5th looks too far.

Disasi looked really good, very impressed.

Slot didn't say anything like that. He said they had lots more chances and should have won. He's a prick.

They had better ones than we did, missing a couple of sitters. Their xG was 2.44 v 0.73 for us. Just happened we were mostly on top in injury time which I wouldn't have anticipated.

Leaving aside xG, the actual score, chances created, possession stats, referee decisions, VAR, substitutions ,who was on top at the start or the end and during any of the time in between the main point being made is that without doubt and inarguably the present Liverpool manager (like the previous incumbent) is a twat.

Post of the night
Hats off to you Mr Lochhead

[cdbearsfan]

Probably about fair overall. Their equaliser was dead jammy and they were hanging on for dear life at the end. But we could have already lost the game in the opening minutes when we were playing Kamikaze passes with gay abandon. It was exciting, anyway. Great to have players like Malen and Ramsey to come off the bench.

[VillaTim]

Really good performance against possibly the best team in Europe .
Ascensio wasted some great through balls , Rashford was a handhull, Disasi superb I thought as was Garcia (mistake aside ) game plan was good and we were millimetres away from 3 points .