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Author Topic: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?  (Read 7816 times)

Offline pauliewalnuts

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #60 on: May 06, 2025, 08:39:02 AM »
Thread snooker for breakfast.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #61 on: May 06, 2025, 08:41:50 AM »
Four weeks is a long time in football! Rashford got injured just when he was starting to show his best football competing with Watkins as a 9. Asensio's form has collapsed of late and Disasi will be remembered for his struggles at RB. Don't think we will be signing any of them at this rate.

Malen looks to be a fine addition though. Capable of playing across the forward line..

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #62 on: May 06, 2025, 08:56:58 AM »
Four weeks is a long time in football! Rashford got injured just when he was starting to show his best football competing with Watkins as a 9. Asensio's form has collapsed of late and Disasi will be remembered for his struggles at RB. Don't think we will be signing any of them at this rate.

Malen looks to be a fine addition though. Capable of playing across the forward line..

I mentioned at the time that his goal scoring was unnaturally high for him with him tying his best ever season when combining PSG and us. But it is also telling that he got most of his goals with players on the wings beating a man and then playing it back to the pen spot with him running in, and I don't remember that happening with him on the pitch recently.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #63 on: May 06, 2025, 09:03:26 AM »
The only chance like that he's had recently was the one he fluffed against Newcastle. Rashford wide left was a fat better creative outlet than Rashford down the middle. McGinn or Rogers don't give you that threat, and Asensio has suffered not having natural wide players.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #64 on: May 06, 2025, 09:25:50 AM »
The only chance like that he's had recently was the one he fluffed against Newcastle. Rashford wide left was a fat better creative outlet than Rashford down the middle. McGinn or Rogers don't give you that threat, and Asensio has suffered not having natural wide players.

Think he had one in a similar spot at PSG that narrowly deflected wide too. Again from same spot.

An attacking player can't solely rely on cutbacks to the penalty spot from others. Fulham the last day was a kind of fill your boots day for attacking players. At least Watkins and Malen got into the right positions. Tielemans, Rogers and even Matty Cash delivered great balls. I can't remember Asensio doing anything really. In his favourite position too.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #65 on: May 06, 2025, 09:28:07 AM »
Four weeks is a long time in football! Rashford got injured just when he was starting to show his best football competing with Watkins as a 9. Asensio's form has collapsed of late and Disasi will be remembered for his struggles at RB. Don't think we will be signing any of them at this rate.

Malen looks to be a fine addition though. Capable of playing across the forward line..

I mentioned at the time that his goal scoring was unnaturally high for him with him tying his best ever season when combining PSG and us. But it is also telling that he got most of his goals with players on the wings beating a man and then playing it back to the pen spot with him running in, and I don't remember that happening with him on the pitch recently.

Yep, he's at his best taking the ball in space due, playing a creative pass for a player around him and moving into space for the return.  He's never going to be a "pick it up, beat three men and launch one" type of player for us.  I like that he's different to Rogers, it gives us options to do things slightly differently if plan A isn't working.  What I don't particularly like is Rogers playing out of position to accommodate him.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #66 on: May 06, 2025, 09:34:47 AM »
Overall the 3 signings have worked and helped us go far in the FA Cup and Champions League . Don't think we will sign any of them though .

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #67 on: May 06, 2025, 09:52:37 AM »
The only chance like that he's had recently was the one he fluffed against Newcastle. Rashford wide left was a fat better creative outlet than Rashford down the middle. McGinn or Rogers don't give you that threat, and Asensio has suffered not having natural wide players.

Think he had one in a similar spot at PSG that narrowly deflected wide too. Again from same spot.

An attacking player can't solely rely on cutbacks to the penalty spot from others. Fulham the last day was a kind of fill your boots day for attacking players. At least Watkins and Malen got into the right positions. Tielemans, Rogers and even Matty Cash delivered great balls. I can't remember Asensio doing anything really. In his favourite position too.

One of those that the runs were there but different balls were played. His run and brilliant pass from McGinn setup the corner for the first goal. Cash's best ball fell to Watkins. Asensio was the brunt of Konsa's outburst when he lost it in the Fulham half though, the one when Emery was really apoplectic at someone. Not sure whether Konsa felt Asensio didn't call or something, or just Konsa's normal blaming the nearest other player for his fuck-up though.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #68 on: May 06, 2025, 09:53:53 AM »
I also think he's perfect to be a sub and change a game. Which he's likely not going to want, but it gives him chance to see the spaces.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #69 on: May 06, 2025, 10:50:37 PM »
Overall the 3 signings have worked and helped us go far in the FA Cup and Champions League . Don't think we will sign any of them though .

I think that’s a pretty good summary which I’d agree with.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #70 on: May 06, 2025, 11:06:21 PM »
The only chance like that he's had recently was the one he fluffed against Newcastle. Rashford wide left was a fat better creative outlet than Rashford down the middle. McGinn or Rogers don't give you that threat, and Asensio has suffered not having natural wide players.
Like Gabby, then?

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #71 on: May 07, 2025, 12:57:20 AM »
Malen will miss as many sitters as Ollie next season and you'll be wanting to ditch him by Christmas.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #72 on: May 07, 2025, 04:07:09 AM »
Malen will miss as many sitters as Ollie next season and you'll be wanting to ditch him by Christmas.

If Malen is in the position to do so (I.e., he is our number one striker) then something has gone wrong.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #73 on: May 07, 2025, 08:08:18 AM »
Malen will miss as many sitters as Ollie next season and you'll be wanting to ditch him by Christmas.

If Malen is in the position to do so (I.e., he is our number one striker) then something has gone wrong.

Not sure I agree with that at all, UE has a proven track record of making strikers much, much better. Malen already looks a talent and a fine finisher. UE will take him up to a higher level.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #74 on: May 07, 2025, 08:11:57 AM »
Overall the 3 signings have worked and helped us go far in the FA Cup and Champions League . Don't think we will sign any of them though .
I think that’s a pretty good summary which I’d agree with.
I agree with BNS.

 


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