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Author Topic: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?  (Read 8260 times)

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2025, 08:25:59 AM »
To add a bit of reasoning, we're currently scoring on average a couple of goals per game, but conceding too many. I don't think Rashford suddenly means we start scoring three or four per game, but the additional of Disasi could well be the thing makes us concede fewer. But even just making the defence *look* a bit stronger means at the end of the season I think / hope we might see it as first half shaky defence / second half stronger defence and Disasi will be credited with that.

On Asensio, I dislike being possibly the lone pessimist but as I said when he was linked - I think people will be disappointed. There's a decent tradition of young players looking half decent in La Liga and the Spanish national team, moving to PSG, not doing very well at PSG and being punted out to not-very-good Premier League teams where they spend most of their time on the bench.

I don't really see what Asensio does for us that Pablo Sarabia doesn't do for Wolves and Carlos Soler doesn't do for West Ham. Their records prior to coming to England are remarkably similar to each other, apart from Asensio's extra medals.

And I reckon if Soler had come through the Real Madrid youth team rather than the Valencia youth team, it could well have been him with three Champions League medals instead of Asensio having them.

Obviously though I hope that people are quoting this back to me in May and laughing in my face at how stupid I was.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2025, 08:45:17 AM »
Disasi is the safest bet but Rashford and Asensio have the greater potential. Their ability is unquestionable, but their motivation to succeed again if they consider they’re stepping down has still to be established.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2025, 08:47:26 AM »
Really exciting with the potential of these two players.  I've always thought Rashford is a pain in the arse to play against with his pace, size and ability.  Asensio I know less about but has some pedigree and an excellent CV.  Really looking forward to the rest of the season and hoping that we have them with us next season too if they do well.  Disasi fills a huge gap and gives Konsa competition that is long overdue.  I have a feeling that Unai has got fed up with the likes of Bailey and others and has really pushed the boat out to get these three players in.  I am sure that Garcia and Malen will prove good purchases.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2025, 08:51:04 AM »
I think it is more critical  that Disasi works out considering our defensive problems at and Konsas form.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2025, 09:08:35 AM »
One of them is nailed on to be at least disappointing, so which one?

Rashford is the one I'm most excited about so it's bound to be him, although all he's got to do is not be as shit as Bailey and the effect of playing with 11 men on the pitch will be vivid.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2025, 11:21:03 AM »
One of them is nailed on to be at least disappointing, so which one?

Rashford is the one I'm most excited about so it's bound to be him, although all he's got to do is not be as shit as Bailey and the effect of playing with 11 men on the pitch will be vivid.
i really hope he starts well, pretty sure his confidence needs lifting.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2025, 11:51:19 AM »
One of them is nailed on to be at least disappointing, so which one?

Rashford is the one I'm most excited about so it's bound to be him, although all he's got to do is not be as shit as Bailey and the effect of playing with 11 men on the pitch will be vivid.
i really hope he starts well, pretty sure his confidence needs lifting.

That's my take too.  If he can get a goal or an assist, or even just a very lively debut that leaves people impressed, I think he could fly the second half of the season.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #22 on: February 06, 2025, 11:56:57 AM »
To add a bit of reasoning, we're currently scoring on average a couple of goals per game, but conceding too many. I don't think Rashford suddenly means we start scoring three or four per game, but the additional of Disasi could well be the thing makes us concede fewer. But even just making the defence *look* a bit stronger means at the end of the season I think / hope we might see it as first half shaky defence / second half stronger defence and Disasi will be credited with that.

On Asensio, I dislike being possibly the lone pessimist but as I said when he was linked - I think people will be disappointed. There's a decent tradition of young players looking half decent in La Liga and the Spanish national team, moving to PSG, not doing very well at PSG and being punted out to not-very-good Premier League teams where they spend most of their time on the bench.

I don't really see what Asensio does for us that Pablo Sarabia doesn't do for Wolves and Carlos Soler doesn't do for West Ham. Their records prior to coming to England are remarkably similar to each other, apart from Asensio's extra medals.

And I reckon if Soler had come through the Real Madrid youth team rather than the Valencia youth team, it could well have been him with three Champions League medals instead of Asensio having them.

Obviously though I hope that people are quoting this back to me in May and laughing in my face at how stupid I was.

I'm a bit similar on Asensio. Always thought he was a bit overrated even in his Real Madrid days. Top teams can carry a couple of players and I always thought he fell into that camp. ACL done at Real and some injuries since at PSG too, think it's a stretch that he will have the mobility to do that job on the right for us.
But...Bailey has been so bad this season that Asensio is maybe under less pressure than the other two. All he has to do is be decent early on in that role and see where confidence/match fitness takes him. Scoring a banger or two would help!
« Last Edit: February 06, 2025, 12:13:30 PM by brontebilly »

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #23 on: February 06, 2025, 12:12:56 PM »
I'm a bit similar to Asensio.

You're a handsome bastid as well?

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2025, 12:14:13 PM »
I'm a bit similar to Asensio.

You're a handsome bastid as well?

No, I wouldn't make our team!

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2025, 12:19:42 PM »
One of them is nailed on to be at least disappointing, so which one?

Rashford is the one I'm most excited about so it's bound to be him, although all he's got to do is not be as shit as Bailey and the effect of playing with 11 men on the pitch will be vivid.

Me too. I want him to rip up the league and cups like no other. Not to be as shit as Bailey currently is, isn't a big ask. 

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2025, 12:54:05 PM »
Add me to the 'Really excited about Rashford' camp.  Emery seems the perfect manager for him to me.  If he can get him back to his 20-goals-a-season-form with us, he'll be an absolute steal at £40m.

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2025, 01:10:56 PM »
I was quite impressed by Disasi's intertview on Pravda, he spoke just about his enjoyment of the game and his desire to play.  Doesn't strile me as a bloke who's turning up to VP to pick up his pay cheque.
On that basis I reckon:
Disasi
Rashford
Asensio

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2025, 01:38:12 PM »
1.Sensi
2. Dizzi
3. Rashers

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Re: Loan stars - Asensio / Disasi / Rashford - which will do best?
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2025, 01:49:40 PM »
Remember when you used to be a rascal.

 


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